WikiLeaks' model has proven to be unsustainable because it has a head and therefore can be taken out as we're seeing with Assange, and Anonymous' TYLER platform is coming to circumvent this. “The situation with Julian Assange will not change - it’s a witch hunt”. Anonymous hopes he runs for senate and gets diplomatic immunity. "One of Assange's accusers has ties to the CIA and we hardly ever hear anything about that on the state controlled CNN”. The US government is attempting to legalize the use of propaganda against the American public. Anonymous claim their methods may be the last hope to spread information about corruption without fear of being illegally imprisoned.
A significant "random set" of the Anonymous collective shared their views on the US government’s constant control and censorship of information and the discrediting of alternative channels of information, as well as their opinion on the media, copyrights, and file sharing. They hacktivists claimed that ACTA, SOPA, PIPA and other attacks on freedom of expression, as it exists online, are the result of corrupt democratic processes. The Anonymous members polled gave the VOR some more details on Project Mayhem 2012 and TYLER and when asked about Russia gave a candid and surprising answer for a group that categorically does not get involved in poltics.
After writing my article on a rift between WikiLeaks and Anonymous in which I asked Anonymous and WikiLeaks to contact me regarding the situation Anonymous was kind enough to do so. I requested an audio or studio interview but this was impossible due to their security concerns. We agreed on an e-mail interview, the results of which were published last week.
During the time that has passed another Anonymous member was gathering the answers to all of my questions from the group as a whole and arranged for audio to be provided. The sources have been authenticated. The digitized voice is to protect the identity of the Anonymous member(s), who wishes to remain anonymous. The answers below reflect the opinion a random number of the entire group after a week of polling them, as opposed to our earlier interview which was more limited in scope as to the number of participants. Anonymous refers to the collective consciousness of the group as the "hivemind" and states that to properly get feedback would require the participation of over 9,000 Anons.
I think it is important to note that: Anonymous is a living entity that adapts, assimilates and bends within the environment it finds itself in. As for WikiLeaks and Anonymous, well, I guess you could say, with literary latitude, that they have kissed and made up.
I believe in protecting my sources, as did my wonderful higher-ups, so it was agreed to use the voice. Thanks for your interest and please stay with the Voice of Russia. More to come.
Interview with the hacktivist group Anonymous, Part 1.
You can find the audio for this interview here: 1/Archive/2012/November/Anonymous/Anonymous Full.mp3
It was originally published here (part 1) and here (part 2).
Robles: "Can you tell us any other reasons that have not been publicized as to why Anonymous has decided to part ways with WikiLeaks?"
Anonymous: There is no official Anonymous positioning on WikiLeaks: Not all of Anonymous have parted from WikiLeaks (bear in mind that Anonymous frequently is abused by idiots and infiltrators that attempt to post nonsense to discredit us). Let's get this straight: WikiLeaks is doing good stuff and we all know what has been done to Assange so far. Anonymous stands up for freedom of speech as well as freedom of information.
Based on the WikiLeaks issue about the paywall where one couldn't access their cables without donating. Some Anons saw a 'clear' censorship of information there and feared, WikiLeaks could have become what they once fought against. This is, why there are now sites like Par:AnoIA (par-anoia.net) that spread info apart from WikiLeaks. But again - in the end it's about freedom of speech and information. It would Make no sense NOT to support transparency and non disclosure of sources. As you can see in the end we don't have to agree with each other all the time.
WikiLeaks' model has proven to be unsustainable though, because of the fact that it has a head and therefore can be taken out as we're seeing with Assange. No worries TYLER is coming to circumvent this.
Robles:"There have been statements that Anonymous plans to release secret files about WikiLeaks, can you give us a few details about these files and what kind of revelations they will provide?"
Anonymous: Where did you get this info?
Robles:"If WikiLeaks goes down the tubes how do you think this will affect Julian Assange and his current situation?"
Anonymous: This is some wild speculation here. Neither do we have some crystal ball, nor are we very much into fortune telling. The present situation has enough jobs and concerns to care about. The situation with Julian Assange will not change - it’s a witch hunt. Hopefully he runs for senate and gets diplomatic immunity.
His situation is unfortunate because the response by State departments is obviously overblown. There are numerous articles of information that may lead the public to believe the charges against him are false and yet they are rarely reported on.
One of his accusers, for instance, has ties to the Central Intelligence Agency and we doubt you will ever hear anything about that on the state controlled CNN.
Robles:"Can you tell us something no one else knows about TYLER?"
Anonymous: The Secret is there is NO Secret. Won’t tell more for a simple reason - freedom of information. Got it? We tell what we can tell, besides: we really would be happy, if journalists cared more about the content of the info/cables than into what they think is secrets or drama. This would help us to reach a next step in spreading truth to the public about things people really should care about. Or maybe yes...
Robles: "In what ways will TYLER be better than WikiLeaks?"
Anonymous: TYLER will “bee” a Massively Distributed Uncensorable Collaborative Wiki-P2P Cipherspace Structure ergo no centralized system, no heads – this will avoid any problems related to having a spokesperson: Assange problems.
Robles:"Was there any special reason for choosing the date December 21, 2012? Some people believe that on that date when all of the planets align and when the Mayan calendar ends, the world, as we know it, will end."
Anonymous: As you probably will have researched yourself, Mayan calendar goes on. Many people think it’s a point of ascension, a change of global consciousness. The 12/21/2012 meme can be used to bring out strong emotions within the human psyche, especially in the western culture, where the apocalypse is the hot button. OR maybe we actually believe this will cause the world to end.... Who knows. ;)
Just for a little clear up: TYLER is not to be released on Dec, 21. The actual release date is Dec, 12. Please watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUz-Dhk7dYU for more information.
Robles: "What is the current status of all of the members of Anonymous who were indicted in the US? Can you give us details about where their cases currently stand?"
Anonymous: We won't talk about ongoing cases, besides of the official information everyone has anyways. Our fallen brothers and sisters will never be forgotten though. Information is widely available in their specific counties and courthouses for more info you can go to http://freeanons.org/ and http://wiki.par-anoia.net/wiki/Main_Page
Robles: "What is the underlying philosophy of Anonymous?"
Anonymous: We don't have an "agenda" - we are human beings who are worried about the things we see, that are going on in the world right now, and we express our concerns: It is about exposing corruption, freedom of speech, freedom of information and protecting the Internet, as is the ether from where the liberation will emerge. Furthermore, to expose who the ruling elite are and how they manipulate and enslave humanity. (Wait.... I thought WE were the elite? Lulz)
In general supporting justice and universal human rights seem to be the core foundations of Anonymous right now. It's hard to define, because Anonymous is constantly changing. Its principals are defined by collective decisions. So far, anyone claiming to be Anonymous that has tried to derail the idea of promoting universal equality and true justice have been attacked by Anons and denounced.
Robles: "What would you say to people who say you are criminals?"
Anonymous:"Is saying NO to our Governments a Crime?" We would encourage them to educate themselves, to think outside of the box as well as use their logic. We probably would also educate them on certain media distortion that plays a big role when it comes to topics like this one. Given that logic. Then they would have to call protestors in picket line criminals.
Robles: "Please describe the decentralized nature of Anonymous, why there are no official spokes people and why this is the case?"
Anonymous: Anonymous is a loose knit collective. If there were leaders or an official spokesperson Anonymous could be weak or touchable for the FEDs. This empowers Anonymous. Please watch this video which explains this idea beautifully: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIARz-RE_T8
Anonymous is an idea. Not an immediate goal. It’s beautiful how within the collective structure you are absolutely free. Everybody has his/her own reasons for being Anonymous. We all look the same but behind the mask we are individuals, individuals who don’t want to be commanded.
Bear in mind, every action you take when truly decided by yourself and not because of someone commands you to leads to 100% engagement. “United we stand divided we fall”
Robles: "Can you discuss some of the attempts by intelligence agencies and law enforcement organizations to infiltrate Anonymous?"
Anonymous: These attempts always have been and always will be there. To us they are good on terms of awareness. We wished the reasons why we are doing, what we are doing would be transported to the public as well as these infiltration-stories. Generally this means to us that Anonymous isn't just a game, but one has to be aware what he is doing and also to be able to care about his security. This is why we have special channels within our communication to provide new Anons with security information etc.
In the end the name is the game. As we are Anonymous we don't share personal information. As for we stand united for our ideas and ideals as well as this is another way to protect ourselves. We would like to refer people to the history books on this issue. You should investigate a group of activists during the Vietnam War known as the "Camden 28."
The American public in particular should be aware of the fact that in the National Defense Authorization Act of 2013, the American government is attempting to legalize the use of propaganda against the American public, something that has been illegal since the end of World War II. It is a reformation of the Smith-Mundt Act. People need to be aware of this because it could allow the government to begin mass funding for sock-puppet social media accounts, which is something that is already taking place. The Israeli government is famous for utilizing these techniques against its population.
Robles: "Can you give us any specifics about FBI/CIA/MI-6 attempts at getting at your people, influencing Anonymous and infiltration etc?"
Anonymous: No, we will give no particulars.
Robles: "Why are your members ready to put their lives on the line for the cause?"
Anonymous: That is real activism or hacktivism (Internet). If you are just sitting around and watch TV or something like this, nothing will change. Lives on the line? We stand for all humanity. Do you think Gandhi put his life on the line for just himself?
There are those that are somewhat awake to the banker occupation of this planet and there are those that yearn for truth but just can’t figure how to get to it! They know something is not right with their lives and especially the lives of the poorest of the poor. Everyone wants to rid this planet of poverty, and its doable if it were allowed. If we have to put our necks on the line to expose the bankers that don’t allow that...Then so be it.
I guess you can consider us as collateral damage. We see all over the world these links of events and influences of actions common citizens don’t see or don’t mind to see. Some friends that are journalists in the US and in the Middle East, openly oppose corruption and are frequently detained/arrested and even some are put in prison.
Anonymous may be our last hope to spread necessary information about corruption without fear of being illegally imprisoned. There are no heroes here. We are actively doing this to because it's the right thing to do and we'll continue to do so regardless of the consequences.
Close. End Part 1
Robles: "Can you go into some of the steps that the US Government and other governments have gone to in order to control and censor the flow of information worldwide?"
Anonymous: Yes (and No). Best examples: ACTA, SOPA, PIPA, CETA, TRAPWIRE, INDECT (Europe) and and and ... not to forget patriot act and NDAA. The steps are very obvious. False Flag ops by the feds are quite easy to carry out. Just a simple e.g. It is unlikely real Anons would make bomb threats as per this video.
It’s pretty obvious this is a false flag op to discredit Anonymous and to try control the web - specifically to control the flow of alternative media. Because the Main Stream Media (MSM) is not only complicit but owned by the ruling elite. The MSM is the New World Order. ACTA, SOPA, PIPA and other attacks of the freedom of expression as it exists online are the result of a corrupt democratic process that exists in the United States. ALL of those bills/treaties were personally authored by lobbyists that spend MILLIONS of dollars yearly in the form of campaign contributions.
In the US politicians are able to get into office through campaign contributions from an industry, then push legislation on their behalf and then retire from their elected positions into their employment. Please see two articles about this problem.
All attacks on the Internet are due to corrupt campaign finance laws in the United States. Period. The same individuals that attacked the introduction of VHS and CDs are perpetrating the laws against the Internet. They basically attack any new technology because it is cheaper than altering their own outdated business plans.
Robles: "What is the Anonymous position on the media, on copyrights, on file sharing and on content?"
Anonymous: The media is more interested in hacking or ddos things. Rethink Occupy Wallstreet, there was a big media blackout for many weeks on it (sep the 17th). Copy...what? Anonymous "stands" for no censorship, free information and free opinion/speech. The MSM is owned by the big 6 Media Conglomerates and the world is run by 147 companies that Control Everything.
This is no coincidence, given these facts, the media is controlled by only a few and for their agenda. There’s no freedom of the press as such. Hence why alternative media is exploding. We do not trust the MSM to tell truths they only tell what the bankers that own them want us to hear. It’s called 'Our Brand" Joe six pack is smarter than they would like but won’t allow the populous to grow.
Robles: What about copyrights?
Anonymous: As for copyrights? Why is it the Government's job to police or SWAT team for corporations’ copyrights (with our tax money).
For example, if I'm selling Christian Dior perfume 'copy' it should be up to Christian Dior to sue me for infringing their brand; second e.g. If I was a mum and dad operator with a butchery and branded a lamb steak and Wal-Mart copied it. There is no way the authorities would take action. Reverse that and I would get SWAT teamed!!
The people that are perpetuating copyright laws are not doing so on behalf of artists. Take for instance, the case of the artist 50-Cent, who had a website owned by his record company and also ran his own independent website. The company, who lobbied for legislation such as SOPA, ACTA and PIPA listed his personal site as one that infringed upon their copyrights. They were actually attacking their own artists for attempting to promote themselves. They are not doing this to support artists; they are doing it to protect their profits because they are threatened by advancements in technology. They are unwilling to adapt.
Robles: "What are some of the other events that are being planned in the context of project Mayhem?"
Anonymous: Project Mayhem 2012 will NEVER do ANYTHING illegal to achieve any goals. (Keep in mind all events will NEED the participation of MILLIONS of citizens worldwide.) 'Dangerous Idea 1' involves leaking information onto TYLER from December, 12th - December, 21st. For this event we will need the participation from whistleblowers worldwide.
'Dangerous Idea 2' Dare to Kreate: is a call to CREATE the SEEDS of something beautiful: be that a wallpaper, a stencil, a game, a beautifully positive and enlightening video, explaining what is Project Mayhem 2012 for them and what would they like to see happening 12.21.2012 11:11 worldwide.
Next up is 'Dangerous Idea 3'. A possible global economic meltdown might soon be on its way, for this event (which will occur on 12.21.2012) we are asking citizens worldwide to remove their money from their bank accounts and switch to an alternative currency.
'Dangerous Idea 4'. This event will be a celebration in a sense, on 12.21.2012 Anonymous will organize massive flash mobs to occupy Parliaments worldwide, not to simply protest but to celebrate our accomplishments. For the lulz of course!
Last but not least, "Dangerous Idea V", who is still a mystery at the moment...MayBee TYLER kNWOs
Robles: "What country in the world does Anonymous feel has the freest system?"
Anonymous: It is not about some best system. It is - again - about things we see that are of concern. No matter where they happen. It is about rethinking what has become of democracy and how we - the people - want to raise or children. Will it be in a free society, where free minds are welcome or will it be at some place of fear where the interests of big players who want to get money out of everything will be controlling without giving an individual enough space to even breathe?
By using the word "terrorism" and creating fear among public, certain organizations try nothing more than oppress society on long term. But we won't give up our freedoms just for the illusion that someone else knows "what is good" for us anyway. In the end it’s a global Government run by the banks; Rothschild’s Rockefellers JP Morgan’s Goldman’s etc.
Soon we will see a one-world-government with a one-world-currency. Regardless of where we are. The laws will be policed by that one world Government. Their surveillance has already started to be put in place i.e. Trapwire and Indect, hence the importance of Operation BigBrother.
Robles: "What is the Anonymous position/opinion on the Russian Federation, the Russian net, and the flow of information to, from and within the Russian Federation?"
Anonymous: FREE Pussy Riot!!! Putin has been a shock though. He has thrown out the Rothschild’s central banking system and has wiped Africa's debt. This is stunning and very dangerous. The NWO will attempt to overthrow him. Hence the so-called protests.
As per the CIA instigated Arab Spring. Watch the video The Revolution Business is exactly that.
Robles: Is there anything else you feel is important, please.
Anonymous: Anonymous is not your personal army. United we stand divided we fall. You can't arrest an idea. Tyler is just the beginning not the End of #PM2012 | we won’t stop coding we won’t stop fighting against injustice.
TYLER’s release date is not on December, 21st. The actual release date is on December, 12. The release will take place after beta testing and code audits and the choosing of the best Tyler candidate. This is necessary and should take place by December 11.
Every so often we hear about this 'Incoming Cyber Attack', the first of which was brought up by NSA, claiming Anonymous is organizing a massive cyber 'attack'. Since Project Mayhem 2012 was not known as it is today, Anons within the collective sent out responses to this accusation via Twitter and Youtube claiming it is all hype possibly to pass cyber security legislation, even though the specifics of this attack by Anonymous were not mentioned the claim was quite obvious. So next time DHS, NSA or FBI falsely cry out cyber attack, you now know why.
Also the most important thing to remember: Project Mayhem 2012 will NEVER ever suggest you to do anything ILLEGAL and/or anything against your own Consciousness. You are Anonymous You are Project Mayhem.
12.21.2012, 11:11 AM The End of Fear
"Anybody kNWOs that the people have the power. All we have to do is awaken the power in the people." - John Lennon. Imagine we wake up.
We are Anonymous.
We are Legion.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
The digitized voice in this interview is to protect the identity of the speaker who wishes to remain anonymous and who is speaking for a significant yet random segment of the entire movement or group. After the publication of our last interview I requested audio, if it was possible. Due to security concerns it was impossible to conduct a normal phone interview. The answers above reflect the opinion of a significant number, yet "random set", of the entire group after a week of polling them, as opposed to our earlier text interview which was more limited in scope as to the number of participants.
Anonymous refers to the collective consciousness of the group as the "hivemind" and very clearly states that to properly get feedback would require the participation of over 9,000 Anons. To be certain that they were speaking for as many members as possible, Anononymous polled members over the course of the last couple of weeks and collectively answered each of the questions. The digitized voice reflects the Anononymous collective but as the speaker is also anonymous can not be considered the "Official Voice of Anonymous".