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Interview With Tony Holland on Criminality in Rio Tinto Uranium Operations

by John Anthony Robles II

 Tony Holland jar2 logo

RE: Ms Sharon Singh and her friendships in the Australian Underworld.

Further developments have occurred this week, involving 3 murders and several armed robberies, which may well have very serious repercussions for Ms Singh and her associates.  It could well be incumbent on the Minister to read **The Sunday Herald sun**, 14th Sept 2014, outlining that Melb solicitor John Anile is before the courts accused of being an associate of the **generals gang** which specifically has laundered over 10 million dollars of stolen money and murdered 3 people over the last 20 years.

That Ms Singh knows Mr. Anile is beyond question, and, it is known that Ms Singh entered into transactions with Mr. Anile and several organized crime figures here regarding premises which were subsequently used to convert stolen cars and grow marijuana at 155 Cherry Lane Laverton and that Ms Singh’s name was on a lease for those premises, alongside that of a known senior criminal, Paul Reed, Reed himself a convicted murderer. 

I assert once again that Minister Boyd, should be very careful with any Submissions Ms Singh may make to the minister, and I ask once more, he read todays Herald Sun, Canadian police might then be asked to background Ms Singh and her associates. Tony Holland http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law-order/dna-swoop-on-richmond-roadgang-robbery/story-fni0fee2-1227057677071?nk=75b6b08b79ce2d7bfd86ab1a85d8dbbc

Tony Holland

Hi all

Recent broadcast interviews....on how RIO TINTO are conning the government of Saskatchewan, by:

a) Promising jobs to business..when few jobs will be given to locals.

b) Promising local business opportunities to locals ..when few local businesses will be sourced.

c) Promising Government that the drilling program is safe....when, in alarge submission made by RIO and refered to as the EIS report a 1 line admission that the dust isn't controlled appears.

d) Neglecting any discussion on milling programs and tailings program.

e) Using Personal well known for lying to senior people to present untruths to the Saskatchewan Government and Saskatchewan people. 

( It doesn’t get much better than Ms Singh from Rio Tinto posing as a media liaison person when in fact she is a trained lawyer with several yrs experience presenting paperwork for government approvals. Its like a police office telling a suspect that he is free as long as he admits every aspects of the crime Sleeping half-moonwhich the officer then goes on to outline.)

It is my earnest wish that Minister Boyd look into some of my concerns for the people of Saskatchewan to prevent large scale environmental damage and large scale health problems occurring in the not too distant future.

 Tony Holland

AUDIO http://www.jar2.com/_private/_02/140904_Holland.zip  http://www.jar2.com/_private/_02/140828_HOLLAND.zip  

Hello this is John Robles. You are listening to an interview with Tony Holland, he is a security specialist and a geopolitical analyst.

Robles: Hello Tony, how are you?

Holland: Oh hi John, how are you?

Robles: Very well thank you and nice to be speaking with you. Could you give us a little background now on this Rio Tinto Roughrider Advanced Exploration Program?

Holland: It’s the typical uranium con trick. They tend to find ore, or a probable mining project, in areas where people have a low education and they are wide open to promises of this is a project that’s coming your way, you’re going to make a lot of money and you’re going to get lots of jobs and lots of business. In fact a typical scam line is: “we have ten thousand projects a year of which only three will result in a mine. And guess what guys, you’re Number 1”

Robles: Can you tell us, you have a unique background in this, and you have experience with these … this scheme and uranium mining …

Holland: My first job, about 40 years ago, was developing Rössing Uranium Mine in South West Africa, so I think I’d be uniquely qualified to talk about uranium mining to anybody, from a so-called expert to somebody coming into it, and I’m concerned with this Roughrider Program simply because Rio already admits that it can’t control the dust that will be produced in this mine.

Now bear in mind, that dust is uranium dust. You breathe a cupful of that; a year later you will die. No question about that.

Robles: Give us some details, if you could, some facts on it?

Holland: What you’ve got, you’ve got an ore body in the ground, and that’s basically a rock, and inside that rock there’s a provable grade of ore that you’re after. In this case that ore is uranium. When you drill into that rock you naturally produce dust. There cannot be any other way you can’t not produce dust.

So when they are drilling on this Program you’re going to get uranium dust. There is no other way to say it. You will not get anything but dust. You will get the ore, of course you will get the ore body on the core of the drill, but you are going to get dust, and Rio have already admitted they are going to produce lots of dust, and that dust they’re producing far exceeds the allowable uranium dust, uranium type that won’t cause you illness or death.

Robles: Who is controlling this, and where are they trying to do this mining, and what’s going on with that? Aren’t there regulatory bodies in Canada that should be watching this?

Holland: The Minister Bill Boyd has responded to my concerns by putting my concerns in the public domain under his umbrella, and he sent a letter which I forwarded to you, and I hope you will put that letter in your article.

It is Minister Boyd who has to regulate mining and the environment. This “Advanced”, they are now calling it an Advanced, Rio’s calling it an Advanced Exploration Program, the EIS study on that, as admitted to Minister Boyd now that they can’t control the uranium dust.

Robles: Now I understand there’s indigenous issues involved here. What’s going on with that?

Holland: This is absolutely dreadful. There’s nations, Mongolia and Bougainville for instance, that have had the same spiel given to them, basically: “look guys, we’ve found a mine here and you’re going to be rich”. Only to find that there’s no jobs offered to locals, as has been promised, and no money coming to locals as has been promised, because what Rio does is they go in there, and they say: “look we are going to give you 34% of the project for free. We are going to build this project, and we’ll take 64% to cover our costs, and our side of the bargain.”

With that 64%, of course, it has to be paid before the 34% is paid to the locals, and of course what Rio does is they put very expensive people into that project. The managing director or CEO of Rio gets paid $6 million simply by booking his time into this project, as the guy giving the controlling guidance to the project, and the locals never get to see any money.

Right now, as we speak, Mongolia is complaining that they’ve had too many … they were promised 34% of a project called Oyu Tolgoi, and they’re receiving very little money simply because Rio’s getting every penny it can to pay itself back.

Just to remind you, you are listening to an interview with tony Holland.

Robles: Can you give us some background on this RioTinto?

Holland: Well Rio are one of the world’s biggest miners, and they tend to exploit nations, not the local people. But nations are suffering, Mongolia is up in arms about them, Bougainville actually had a civil war that lasted for 20 years, and they’ve kicked them out. People are waking up to the practices of Rio. Nobody likes to be conned.

Robles: Can you give us some of your background. Now you had some contacts with somebody?

Holland: I know one of the lawyers, Sharon Singh, who came to Australia and left under a cloud. A criminal, she was arrested several times, there’s several thefts pending, and she rocked up to Rio Tinto in Canada, and I thought “wow, what’s she doing?” And she is the one preparing this environmental study. It’s like “Wow, is it Rio know the type of lawyers to bring on board to make a submission to the government.”

Robles: I’m sorry, she’s a lawyer, and she’s drawing up environmental studies by herself, or what? Is there a panel or something?

Holland: Let me help you out with the concept of a lawyer. They get a law degree, like Sharon has got, but then their character is assessed whether or not they can practice law, and if it’s said “well hang on, she’s a bit of a crook”, they don’t give them a practicing certificate to practice.

Now Sharon is that type of lawyer. She’s very bright legally, but she has a mind that says “what’s in this for me?” So right now she’s posing to the First Nation in Saskatchewan as a media liaison person ready, willing and able to go up there and talk to them about issues regarding this environmental study that they all have to sign off on as being a bona fide thing.

But she is not telling them about her background, her criminal background. She actually has worked with organised crime here in Australia.

Robles: So her victim now is who exactly in Canada?

Holland: Oh, you only have to think the First Nation in Saskatchewan are going to be dudded. First, very, very big time, they control dust with water, they sprinkle water on it, but then you are left with slurry. This slurry generally gets put into a dam. Now it’s a case of “tailings”, well they call it tailings, right.

Robles: What’s that?

Holland: It’s a process that has a chemical leach in it to get the, when they crush up rock, they use a chemical to leach out the ore. Then it’s left with a rock slurry that’s got residual uranium particles in it. That slurry goes into what’s called a dam - they haven’t even started to control that yet - what they’re trying to control is the dust produced with drills, that’s drilling into the rock, the uranium rock.

You can see these local Indians are going to be breathing in very rich uranium particles, and this is admitted. So if they are going to be breathing it in, or fish are going to be drinking it, or animals are going to breathe it in, it’s going to cause lots of problems, lots of problems.

Robles: Now, have you contacted the First Nations people there?

Holland: No, I’ve only dealt with the government so far, and as I say, Minister Boyd is putting my comments on the public record. I would love to talk to First Nation, but I’ve sent them an e-mail but I haven’t had a reply.

Robles: Saskatchewan right? If you want … I can get you in touch with some people that would I think love to talk to you.

Holland: Oh absolutely. They need to know John, they need to know. You walk anywhere near … you go anywhere near that site you are going to be breathing enriched – when I talk about enriched I don’t mean enriched weapon grade uranium – but I mean you are going to be breathing dust that has uranium particles in it, which are admitted by Rio to be far in excess of what would be normal.

Robles: Now these projects, how far along are they in Saskatchewan? Have they been approved, are they going ahead with them, have they begun, or what’s the actual …?.

Holland: Ah, well this is where the con is getting rather good, because as I told you to begin with, Rio says … goes in, and you can read this in their Environmental Impact Study, the EIS, with the spiel “we’ve got 10 thousand exploration sites and only three are going to result in a mine, and guess what guys”, and this is what they are telling the First Nation, “you are one of the three”. Wow! “You are going to get jobs”, right.

And what the problem is, Rio will only employ somebody that’s got up to 15 years’ experience in mining. So there is no way that First Nation people are going to get jobs on that site, no way at all. The jobs are going to people that Rio deem to have the required amount of experience.

Now what Rio have already done, they have advertised locally in the Saskatchewan press, and the business newspapers full of it, that there’s this big uranium project as big as … it’s quite a big one apparently, as big as anything Canada’s got, about to start. “Please apply for senior jobs there”, so they are starting to employ people already – none of them are First Nation people.

It is very important that the First Nation people know two things. One, they are not going to get their people there on jobs, and two, they are not going to get very much money out of this project. And it’s going to expose, they’re going to die.

Robles: Yeah, well that’s a pretty big point there. And how long is the …?

Holland: … well it is because they have to realize they are going to be breathing this dust in pretty damn quick.

Robles: How long is that going to poison the environment?

Holland: You are talking hundreds of years. Uranium’s half-life is … you’ll be dead by the time it’s half as strong.

Robles: Yeah, OK.

Holland: They really need very, very strong extractors, and they’re not. To do that you start weakening the profit that you can get and Rio are not going to weaken that profit, so they will send men and women there that are adequately protected, and know the protections and precautions to take, but none of them will be local.

Robles: I see, I see. Now, one more time, is this going ahead right now or has it been approved by the government?

Holland: Yes, yes. Yes, no, no. What’s happening, this Environmental Impact Study, the EIS, is before the government, prepared by Sharon Singh, for approval, and there’s an indication that according to the job markets that Rio are recruiting already. So they are expecting to be able to go ahead, not only with the drilling program but by ordering the bore mills and the crushers and the conveyors. Otherwise they wouldn’t be hiring people.

Robles: Now you are, I think, you are one of the few people in the world, if not the only person talking about this issue. Are there any other groups fighting this?

Holland: I think, if you look at the nation of Mongolia, they are having similar problems with copper and gold mines, one of the largest in the world called Oyu Tolgoi, they have already started court action against Rio.

Robles: Now have you been in touch with the Mongolian government. I believe I heard something about you were involved in their case.

Holland: I’ve been asked questions from the Mongolian government, yes, as to what they are I’d rather keep them confidential at the moment.

There’s an article on Bougainville, which is another nation, that just came out last week, on very similar lines that we are talking about now, and also with Mongolia. And that gives you the entire history of, say, 25 years when that nation went to war with people that were benefitting, well with Rio, and just kicked them off the island.

It caused great concern when you know you are being ripped off. Locals just tend to get upset.

Robles: Yes, sure, of course.

Holland: That’s happening now as we speak in Mongolia, with the Mongolian government there. And I think these things should be brought to attention of First Nation leaders, because they can then talk to the leaders of Mongolia, the Prime Minister of Mongolia, about what Rio have done there. Or the Prime Minister of Bougainville, what Rio have done there.

It is not just me saying that Rio are ripping people off. These are Prime Ministers and governments that are saying “hang on we are being dudded here”

Robles: Yeah. OK Tony, any big finish?

Holland: No, no, I am content with what we have said.

Robles: So, at this stage, I’m trying to understand the exact … how far along this has gone there in Saskatchewan? Are they actually mining already, or they are just in the final stages of preparation? Where are they going to start putting out this dust, if things go as planned, do you know?

Holland: You are probably talking weeks.

Robles: Oh, it’s that close?

Holland: Oh yes, it’s very close. If the Minister knocks it back and insists on stronger dust, Rio might have to freeze the ground or something like that, but Rio are preparing for those eventualities. So you can’t not prepare for something you don’t know, you have to know what you are looking at. Rio has a fairly good handle on what’s there and how much it’s worth to them to get it out, and they’ve already started recruiting appropriate people for those technologies that they will have to bring to bear there.

But none of the technologies they’ve got is controlling dust, and you can’t control dust, can you, really.

Robles: But I don’t know, you could have maybe big filters or vacuum cleaners or something around, or nothing?

Holland: Well let’s assume you use a vacuum cleaner or a dust extractor like that. What happens to the dust you collect? You have really got to be very careful and pedantic about that dust because trust me John, it will kill you.

Robles: Sure, sure. Are you aware of the volume of this mine? What is it worth financially?

Holland: In the Environmental Impact Statement you’ve got all those numbers there, and it’s very big, very big. It would warrant the same type of spiel as it’s getting, i.e. of the 10,000 exploration programs we look at, only three make it this far.

Robles: The lucky victim, yeah?

Holland: Yeah, and that’s how it’s presented. You know, you are the lucky group, and you’re going to get lots of money from this, right. And, as I say, Rio’s already recruiting, now they are not recruiting locally, and they wouldn’t recruit unless they were … they were ready to go. So they are thinking that they’ve got it in the bag.

Robles: Ok, if our listeners want to know more on this, where can they go, do you have a website address for us or something?

Holland: If you want to know more about it, I would recommend you have a look at Mongolia. Oyu Tolgoi and just put in Bougainville, Rio Tinto, and you will find out virtually what I am saying, I am replicating what’s going on there.

Robles: Ok, Bougainville, Rio Tinto, Mongolia.

Holland: Oyu Tolgoi … and I think one of the concepts you need to understand is that Rio, when they are sending in the bill for their 60%, as it were, it’s never a bill for what an actual item would cost, it’s a bill for that item plus an amount of money that Rio considers a decent profit. So if something has cost them a $million, Rio’s decent profit might be: we will build that at a million and a half. So, and the trick is we will send in our expenses labor in order to get this project going, so a fly out - fly in guy, he might be getting $200,000, which is decent average money, but Rio charge him out at half a million.

Robles: I see, I see.

Holland: So they pocket 300,000, right. And it is those of issues that are now contentious with the Mongolian government.

Robles: Well of course.

Holland: They are saying “hang on, we are being ripped off by this technique”. And they have just served Rio with a tax bill in order to stop the project dead. And you are talking of $6 billion or nearly $10 billion in total there.

Robles: Wow!

Holland: So we are talking big money here.

Robles: I see, I see. And you are talking about nations and countries and being robbed here. This is not just some minor scam here.

Holland: Yes, it’s not a little one, and you need a very professional veneer, like, if you meet people that get first class honors degrees, they are very good with words John.

Robles: I see, I see. And you are talking about nations and countries and being robbed here. This is not just some minor scam here.

Holland: Yes, it’s these people don’t know that Sharon Singh has a criminal record, been arrested for theft or left Australia under a cloud for instance. All they know is somebody presents with a nice smile and she looks Indian and she’s nice type of thing. But boom, you start telling Sharon about the things that are of concern to you and different words appear to soothe it over.

Robles: OK, thanks Tony, I really appreciate it.

Holland: Good luck.

Robles: OK, thanks a lot, and I’ll do my best to get this out there. So you’re saying is in the final week stage before it goes like full steam ahead, right?

Holland: Ah …

Robles: Several weeks?

Holland: You check with the Minister how close it is, and it could even be sooner than that.

Robles: Oh God.

Holland: But it needs to looked at carefully about that dust, because if he doesn’t really put very, very … I don’t know if he can control it, I don’t know any technique that can, then those people are in for a shock, and it’s guaranteed that somebody is going to get leukaemia sooner rather than later, and/or some other form of cancer.

Robles: Now this dust, it can fly for thousands of miles can it?

Holland: Well, I wouldn’t say thousands of miles, but certainly it will cover a big area of Saskatchewan, a big area.

Robles: And how far is the largest populated city to this mine, do you know?

Holland: I think its Saskatoon, I think its Saskatoon.

Robles: I see, I see.

Holland: But you can get the details from the EIS exactly where it is, or with the Ministry there. But I think the people will that that I’ve written to will probably respond to you as well.

Robles: I see, I see.

Holland: But John, bye, bye.

Robles: Thanks for the heads up. OK, bye.

Holland: Bye, bye.

You were listening to an interview with Tony Holland, a security specialist and a geopolitical analyst. Thank you very much for listening.

I can be reached at jar2@jar2.com

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