MR. TANSEY: Does your Lordship want to read Es too?
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: No, I was looking at Mrs. Cs. I have read it a number of times. It is at
page 62 onwards.
MR. TANSEY: It starts at page 62, yes. I have made a study of the check-list operation ----
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Do not read it out loud. I am sorry, Mr. Tansey, I am not trying to be
difficult, but it is a lengthy statement. It is showing detailed knowledge of, she says, K.G.B.
tradecraft or, in any event, the Soviet Russian Intelligence Service tradecraft. Which page is Mr.
MR. TANSEY: Page 188 to 227.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Thank you.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Yes, I have reminded myself of that.
MR. TANSEY: There is little there that tells anybody anything other than what one already knows
about the Secret Security Services of this country.
What is there - I put it rhetorically - what is it that the prosecution are seriously saying from this that
discloses how the Secret Services work? All that we know is that a number of people have been
arrested. They have used K.G.B. tradecraft - that is what the evidence suggests - the various signs
that they use. My Lord, that does not disclose the inner sanctum of the Security Services at all, and
so that is why I keep on coming back and asking the question: what does this do to expose the
operations of the security services?
My Lord it is not meant to be a rhetorical question, but everything here is descriptive of effectively
what has been established by the Security Services of K.G.B. tradecraft over the years. So, if the
prosecution are saying that is prejudicial to the national safety, well that really is a remarkable
proposition, and I put forward that for this reason: Gordievsky in 1985 was the greatest defector of
the time and, therefore, everybody in the K.G.B. knows that he was a defector and a K.G.B. man,
so they are well aware that, obviously, he has been debriefed and given as much information as
possible; was frequently on television ----
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: If you are meaning by that his masters know that it is extremely likely
that the western powers know everything that he knows now - if you are making that point, that
seems as obvious to me as it does to you.
MR. TANSEY: Yes, and vital to this is Oschenko: the same principle. What we can say is that
statements of Mr. Gordievsky and Mrs. C describe the K.G.B. tradecraft. Well, the Russians know
that our Security Services know this already by the defection, and that is why I say it is so well-
known to the Russians that this has all inevitably been exposed to the Security Services in this
country, how, therefore, can it possibly be prejudicial to the national safety to have this put out in
open court and the Crown has not answered that, has not even set up that proposition, and that is
why I keep on saying I do not understand how they put it. That is my first point. There is no way
that this evidence, as it stands, would prejudice the national safety. That is the first point.
Secondly, the tradecraft in this case, as your Lordship has heard, is frequently set out in various