THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: That is right.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: The defendant is questioned about it in the interview and says ----
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: He said, Having been down to Basingstoke for a familiarisation
course with Eli Lilly, I went up to Harrow in order to try and buy Keyboard magazine.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: In other words, from what the defendant said in answer to the questions
in his interview, the reasonable inference can properly be drawn that the 6th August on (I am going
to call it for shorthand) the tradecraft note is 6th August 1992.
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: Most certainly; there cannot be any doubt.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Therefore if the jury should come to that conclusion, then he cannot
say, This refers to an earlier year when I was having dealings with my friend Harry.
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: Not at all. The full context of that page ----
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Yes, I think I have got the full context.
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: There is reference to Gehring, his holidays and the redundancies
and so on. It is a 1992 document.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Yes, so those tradecraft documents, the Crown say first of all that they
are craft documents; secondly they say they refer to the handing over of information -- otherwise
why have them? -- thirdly they refer to an abortive meeting on 6th August. So in fact the British
Intelligence bogus telephone call on 8th August, as it happened, could hardly have been better
timed, unbeknown to them.
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: That is right; the defendant would be sensitive that something had
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: He did not know what and might wonder, which might, you say, explain
why he demurred and did not turn up in the first quarter hour but did then turn up in case it was all
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: Indeed.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Therefore you say the inference thereafter is that he was there with the
documents in his car because he hoped to get rid of them on the Thursday before, but failed to do
so, and had them there ready in case. I am just trying to think through the sort of inferences, as it
were. I follow how you say that the inferences are there that he was going to hand over to an agent,
who was arguably a Russian agent, because once you can link in the tradecraft notes the jury have
Mr. Oschenko(sic) and Mrs. C saying ----
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: Gordievsky.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Gordievsky, I mean, saying that these are to their way of thinking
Russian tradecraft notes. Once you get that, you tie it up that he is going to hand over to a Russian
agent, and you then say, once that is there -- yes, I see how you put it now.