MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: I do not think it is going to take that long; it is 12 oclock now. I think
we have got plenty to discuss without troubling you until two oclock Mr. Amlot. I think rather - I
will certainly formally release you until 2.00. If you would like me brought into court with the other
counsel - are you going away from the building?
MR. AMLOT: I would if I was able to. I have spoken to my learned friends, and I know there are
other matters for your Lordship to consider. I hope very much that the question of whether the case
is heard in camera or not, or more particularly how much of the case is heard in camera can be dealt
with this afternoon but that is my view at present.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: All right. I am not holding out any particular promises, but I will say not
before 2.00. I do not mind what order I deal with anything, but I think I can say no more than not
before 2.00. Having embarked on Mr. E I had better get on with that. Right; I will look at the file. Is
it here in the building?
THE SOLICITOR GENERAL: Yes, it is, my Lord. My Lord, it might help if your Lordship
remained in court when everybody else has gone in order that I can point your Lordship at particular
documents and some others I have got in my hand.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: In which case we will now do what we have done before which will
mean everyone must withdraw apart from the Crown team and those who are required to remain in
MR. TANSEY: I propose to go to the cells to see the defendant. When your Lordship is free
obviously we will come as soon as you are ready for me.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: I am not going to release you until two because I am not certain what I
am going to deal with.
(Adjournment to deal with ex-parte application by the Crown)
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: Mr. Tansey, I think we can now start with the remainder of your
applications, do we not?
MR. TANSEY: In open court?
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: This is in open court. I have no objection to it being in open court, but I
will have it in chambers if anyone thinks it is appropriate.
MR. TANSEY: I believe this should be in chambers.
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: For what reason.
MR. TANSEY: My Lord, because the matters about which your Lordship was making decisions
are matters which, if your Lordship ruled in my favour, clearly I would not want to be heard to go
beyond this court. If it is in open court ----
MR. JUSTICE BLOFELD: If I ruled in your favour?
MR. TANSEY: Yes, and certain evidence should not be admissible.