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11 July, 03:09

Srebrenica: 19-Year-Blueprint for US Intervention

Stephen Karganovic President of Srebrenica Historical Project

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On July 11, 1995, two NATO warplanes bombed Serbian forces, advancing on Srebrenica. But due to the bad weather and the fact that Serbian forces were holding French and Dutch prisoners of war, NATO called off what was to be a massive bombing campaign. Late in the afternoon, Serbian general Mladic and other commanders entered into Srebrenica. They had won, for the moment. This loss by NATO could not accept and through indirect manipulation and false representation of the facts, US and NATO slandered the Serbs and successfully changed the presentation of a legal military operation. Radio Voice of Russia spoke to Stephen Karganovic on the history of Srebrenica in this special interview on the nineteenth anniversary of those events.

Hello, this is John Robles, I am speaking with Stephen Karganovic, he is the president of the Srebrenica Historical Project.

Robles : Hello sir, how are you this evening?

Karganovic: I am fine, thank you very much.

Robles : We have an anniversary of a very tragic event coming up on July, 11. Some might say it was a part of or the beginning of the rule of international lawlessness and wanton impunity by the architects of Yugoslavia’s and Serbia’s destruction by the US and NATO. Why do you think that is important and give us some of the history, please?

Karganovic: Yes, it is definitely what you have just said and it has become the starting point for a process in international relations. I wouldn’t quite say in international law because, as you correctly put it, the process involves the breakdown of law, lawlessness in fact. What happened was that Srebrenica became a propaganda paradigm that was then used to justify military interventions under the guise of the “right to protect” and as a result it served as the rationale for a couple of very destructive military adventures: Kosovo in 1999, and Iraq, then Libya, and now in Syria, and who knows what is next, and the basic rationale for all these adventures was “We must prevent another Srebrenica”.

Well, the ironic thing is that the death toll in Srebrenica, if you take it at its highest, would be about 8,000. And as you and your listeners, probably, know, the death toll in each of these interventions was far more than that. If you are talking about Syria, you can add another zero to the Srebrenica 8,000 and you probably still would not come close to the carnage that occurred there over the last three years. I just might remind you that it was motivated in large part by the presumed need to “prevent another Srebrenica” as the forces of the current president there supposedly were slaughtering their own people. Much the same thing happened in Libya. According to some estimates, the death toll in Libya was 40,000 or 50,000, a bit more modest, and needless to say in Iraq it was enormous. The figure is still controversial, but nobody puts it at less than 100,000 and some estimates go as far as a million, and so on and so forth.

Oh yes, let’s not forget Kosovo. There the death toll was relatively modest but you have to calculate the impact of depleted uranium bombs that were dispersed all over the country and that over the next couple of thousand years will be killing every living thing there, and people are already massively dying of cancer. So you can imagine that too should be attributed to the “humanitarian intervention” that was conducted there.

So Srebrenica has huge geopolitical implications. I am not saying that there was an idea to turn it into that, but it was an opportunistic move. The potential for Srebrenica, once it took shape as a propaganda concept, to serve in that role as the rationale for future “humanitarian interventions” was seen and seized upon. So that would be part of the answer to your question.

The other part is what actually happened in Srebrenica: there is no doubt that what happened was a massacre. That is not controversial. What is controversial - how many people were killed and – even more important – the legal character of the crime that was committed. As you and your listeners are aware, by now whenever the word “Srebrenica” is mentioned we are all indoctrinated to associate it with genocide. That is precisely the way it works, and in its geopolitical application that I mentioned earlier that is the key point. Whenever they get ready to bomb a country and take it over for its resources they say “Well, we have to prevent the genocide that is being perpetrated by the local rulers, so we have to remove them and install a group of people that would be friendly to us and willing to obey our orders”. And – of course – deliver the goods that we covet in that particular country.

So genocide is a very important point when you are talking about Srebrenica and it so happens that, the judgments of the Hague Tribunal takes place, notwithstanding, no evidence was produced for genocide after about half a dozen or more Srebrenica trials. So what we can say with a fair degree of certainty is that after a bitter inter-communal war in that part of Bosnia that lasted for about three years the Serbs took over Srebrenica, and some of them took the law into their own hands, so to speak, and decided to take revenge for all the people on their side that, previous to that, were murdered in raids that were conducted by the units of the Bosnian Muslim army that were operating from Srebrenica. That doesn’t justify a single murder, but it explains it in a far better way than the idea of genocide. There was no intention of exterminating Bosnian Muslims. The most that happened there was that neighbors were very angry at other neighbors and they decided to let them have it for what they had been doing to them over the previous three years. In three or four days they killed, we estimate, up to a thousand Muslim prisoners, which is without the slightest justification, but certainly it was not genocide and there is no forensic or any other type of evidence to support the figure of 8,000 executed prisoners that you hear about all the time.

Robles : What was the actual number, then?

Karganovic: We can only go by the forensic investigations that were conducted by experts of the Hague Tribunal, of the Prosecution, between 1996, beginning right after the massacre that occurred in 1995, and their exhumations of mass graves that went on until 2001. In that period they uncovered the physical remains of about 1,920 individuals. However, we then looked at the pattern of injury. That is very important because at the same time that this massacre of prisoners was going on another significant event was occurring as well. The division of the Bosnian Muslim army that was in Srebrenica was conducting a military breakout from Srebrenica to Muslim-held territory in Tuzla, which is about 60 kilometers away. Along their way they had many clashes with Serbian forces, which used guns and other implements of war, as they were entitled to do, against the military column. As a result of these clashes, thousands of Muslim soldiers and the civilians who were with them were killed, and I just want to make the point that when you have a mixed military-civilian column, the opposing army is entitled to shoot at it. That is not a war crime, it is a legitimate military operation, so everyone that was killed in the breakout of the Muslim army unit was a legitimate casualty, which sounds very bad, I know, in human terms, and it is, but in international law terms that is the way it is. What they have been doing, in effect, was to exhume the graves where the casualties from the fighting were buried and then they would use them to reinforce the numbers of those who were really executed, in order to boost the figure, essentially. So that’s what has been going on.

Robles : Thank you very much for that detailed answer. Now, would you characterize Srebrenica. Not by itself, but the entire situation surrounding it, as a blueprint for what we are seeing now in multiple countries, in particular in Ukraine?

Karganovic: Well, it is different and yet there are striking similarities.

Robles : But the thinking behind it. Unless it is just to destroy as many people as possible.

Karganovic: I think that destroying people is something that occurs naturally when you undertake such a brutal operation which aims only at achieving a certain political effect and doesn’t ask about the human cost. So yes, people will be killed, Muslims, Christians, whatever they may happen to be, and that is a huge tragedy. But to return to your original question as I understood it, Srebrenica in Bosnia has become a huge stumbling block to the reconciliation and peaceful coexistence of the ethnic and religious communities, mainly the Serbs and the Muslims. Croats are not a part of that because there were not any to speak of in that area during the war. So, by creating this narrative that Srebrenica signifies genocide of Muslims by Serbs, you can see how that makes it very difficult for the two communities to come together on any issue, and that is perfectly natural. How could you just calmly sit and have coffee with someone who has committed genocide on your family?

So that makes it very important to clarify what happened, not to minimize the crime – call it by its right name, put it in the proper perspective, and make sure that all sides are aware that they committed crimes in that particular area. Each community committed crimes against the other community and people should be punished as individuals for the crimes that they committed in both communities. And we should not try to impose on one community the burden of a particularly heinous crime just for political effect. And the political effect is pretty obvious: as long as they cannot get together on anything, you need a foreign arbitrator to keep them in check. So, Srebrenica is an example of how the classical “divide and rule” technique operates and in this particular case as long as Muslims hang on to the genocidal narrative they are never going to come to the same table with their Serbian neighbors and plan either a common future, or a civilized divorce, or whatever, although they can still be good neighbors, they can still cooperate and be on good terms even if they live in separate states instead of in a common Bosnian state. That is a completely separate issue. However, as long you have this burden of genocide that is not likely to happen. But what is very likely is that foreign tutelage, and foreign arbitration, and foreign interference in the internal interference and lives of these people is going to go on for a very, very long time and that is a tragedy because they need to seize control of their own destiny and to be masters in their own house.

Robles : Is there any realistic way that we can stop all this meddling? We are seeing it in the Ukraine all over again.

Karganovic: Of course, taking into account the local peculiarities, which they always do, that is roughly the scenario that is taking place in the Ukraine. In Ukraine you don’t have two completely different religions, not that Islam and Christianity are so completely different, in Ukraine you have varieties of the Christian religion. But people have been indoctrinated to exaggerate the differences and to downplay the similarities. As long as you brainwash them in those terms you can always use them as political pawns for your purposes.

You were listening to an interview with Stephen Karganovic. He is the President of the Srebrenica historical project. This is part 1 of a longer interview. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at

27 May, 2014 23:50

Hague Case Against Ailing General Mladic Failed – Stefan Karganovic

Hague case against ailing General Mladic failed – Stefan Karganovic

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The trial of Ratko Mladić continues in The Hague with the defense stage now underway. The defense is operating at a disadvantage since they have been denied access to much material on the case and their time has been unfairly limited not to allow all of their witnesses to give testimony. After the closing of the prosecution’s case the Hague has failed to prove that General Mladic was involved in the events at Srebrenica and have scheduled the hearings so aggressively that it is a virtual death sentence for the ailing Mladic. We spoke to Stefan Karganovic, the President of the Srebrenica Historical Project about the trial and related issues. Mr. Karganovic says in cases where the defense has a strong case, as with former President Milosevic, it is convenient for the Hague when defendants die in custody.


Photo courtesy of Stefan Karganovic

This is John Robles you are listening to an interview with Mr. Stefan Karganovic he is the President of the Srebrenica Historical Project.

Robles: Hello sir! It is a pleasure to be speaking with you again!

Karganovic: Same here I am very glad to be on you program!

Robles: I was wondering if you could give our listeners some background on the case of former general Ratko Mladić? He is undergoing persecution; I would call it, in The Hague right now.

Karganovic: The prosecutor at The Hague would probably disagree with you. He would say he is undergoing "prosecution". But of course, you are basically right, it is persecution.

Just briefly, General Ratko Mladić was the commander of the Bosnian-Serb forces during the war in Bosnia 1992 to 1995. He was indicted for war crimes predictably by the Hague Tribunal as the war was drawing to an end and ultimately he had to go into hiding because apparently he didn’t have a great deal of faith in the fairness of the tribunal which was seeking his arrest.

Finally, a couple of years ago he was located and apprehended and the government of Serbia dutifully sent him to The Hague to face charges.

So, right now he is facing an indictment that has been paired down for efficiency’s fake, it is not as comprehensive now as it was originally but the main points are there and they are sufficient for life imprisonment, which is what he is probably going to get.

The indictment focuses on three points basically: Srebrenica, the siege of Sarajevo and ethnic cleansing. To that extent his indictment mirrors closely the indictment of Radovan Karadžić, the president of the Republic of Srpska at the time of the war and they both fundamentally face the same issues and their defense efforts are to that extent parallel.

At the present time general Mladić is being defended by a very capable team of lawyers. The problem is not the experience or the abilities of these lawyers, but the scarce resources that the Tribunal has made available to them. They are defending him "on a shoe string", and I think that saying that is actually quite accurate, when you have to consider that he has only three main defense lawyers, and a very small team of investigators and assistants versus 50 or more people who are working on his case on the side of the prosecution with virtually limitless resources and they have been at it for over the last 15 years.

Robles: Can you give us some details on the defense case please? It just recently started.

Karganovic: The defense team has begun presenting its evidence on May 19th and it is now examining its fourth witness. For the time-being at the start of the defense case, the defense has chosen to deal with the Sarajevo charge of the indictment mainly then it will go on gradually to other issues. The defense plans to bring a total of 336 witnesses and experts in various areas.

At the present time the chamber has approved only 207.5 hours for the defense case, which is the same number of hours that was accorded to the prosecution, so that there will not be enough time for all defense witnesses to testify in person.

So, some of them will present their evidence under rule 92bis basically their witness statements will be submitted to the court which is not as good as when you have a live witness.

According to the defense plan, the first 30 witnesses will give evidence about the Sarajevo war theatre during the Bosnian conflict. These witnesses were in a position of authority in the Bosnian-Serb army at the time.

Their evidence will confirm the defense thesis that Sarajevo was not inaccessible to humanitarian relief convoys and that the convoys were supplying Sarajevo regularly without hindrance.

The only exception were those vehicles which carried contraband, military equipment and weapons, and occasionally some were caught by Bosnian-Serb monitors, and that would always incite a huge human cry in the Western media but they conveniently ignored other instances, which were much more numerous, where the humanitarian convoys made it to Sarajevo unhindered.

A key question is who is responsible for incidents that are cited in the indictment, such as Markala 1 and Markala 2, they are quite famous. Commanders of units deployed in positions from which the indictment alleges, Sarajevo was shelled, will testify on the contrary, it was Bosnian Muslim army that fired those projectiles at its own people in order to provoke Western retaliation and political consequences against the Serbs.

So, in due course the defense will present evidence, also refute prosecution allegations in relation to the Srebrenica massacre in July of 1995, which can be summarized in the prosecution claim that about 8,000 prisoners of war were executed amounting to genocide.

And finally it is important to point out that General Mladic is expecting the arrival of medical team from Russia, whose task will be to assess the general’s failing health condition and the appropriateness of the court’s decision to impose a 5-day court schedule, which is a great strain for him.

That intense schedule would be extremely hard on a healthy person. But in the case of someone who is gravely ill, such as this defendant, it is extremely burdensome and may amount to a virtual death sentence.


Robles: The Hague has not been… I think historically (well I don’t want to say that many suspects have died there,) but …

Karganovic: Well yes! About 10 have died there… Why not say it?

Robles: I don’t think they are too concerned about the health of the people...

Karganovic: I think it depends. In some situations they are not. If you are doing well in your defense case, then they probably would rather facilitate your departure from this world than let the case go to its natural conclusion, as in the case of Slobodan Milosevic, there are questions about the way he died in prison in 2006.

In the case of Vojislav Šešelj, they are dragging out the case in ways that are incomprehensible because they obviously do not want him to come back to Serbia and restart his political activity and lately he has become gravely ill in the detention unit of the Hague Tribunal, and treatment that he has been getting has been less than transparent and his family are very, very concerned.

Of course the prosecution case against him is extremely weak so that gaining his departure from this world, would be a godsend for the tribunal which does not mean that they are going to have a part in it, but I am just saying that they would not cry to see him go.

And also in the case of General Mladic it is extremely difficult to speculate what the tribunal’s interest is in the case, with respect to his longevity, but the fact is that the defense has done a much better job than anticipated with the scarce resources that have been placed at its disposal, and general Mladic is an extremely sick man, he has had several heart attacks and is in a very difficult health condition (high blood pressure and so on and so forth).

So, I cannot speak for the tribunal and I am not privy to its inner workings and its state of mind, but I suspect that they would not be too unhappy if he were worked to death literally, having to attend these very strenuous court sessions 5 hours, 5 times a day.

Let’s hope that the medical team visits him and they will give their opinion and then we will take it from there.

Robles: Can you comment on allegations by people in Serbia and other people all around the world actually, that the Hague Tribunal is a completely biased body?

Karganovic: Well I think it is no longer a controversial question. Thinking people around the world, I think would agree that the tribunal has been a very dismal failure and one of the principal reasons that it has been a failure is that its work has very little to do with fairness and justice. So, yes, it is biased and it doesn’t even try too hard to hide its bias.

So, if justice should not just be done, by also be seen to be done, the tribunal of the Hague fails on both counts, because justice is not done there, but the injustice is meted out in such a clumsy way that we do not even have the illusion that justice is being done there.

I think everybody who has had anything to do with the tribunal is going to try to avoid telling their grandchildren that they were involved in it because it is going to be a matter of shame and embarrassment. I am looking into the future… Right now of course they have very comfortable salaries and perks and they are apparently very happy doing their disreputable job.

Robles: As an expert, give us your viewpoints on his involvement and what happened, or non-involvement at Srebrenica.

Karganovic: It is not actually up to me or you to talk about his involvement or non-involvement, in a proper court case whoever is accusing you has to prove that you have done what you are being accused of, in this case, that you organized the massacre of several thousand people at a particular location, in this case Srebrenica.

So, the burden of proof is totally with the prosecution. So, the question we have to ask having heard the prosecution case in the Mladic Trial: how successful has the prosecution been in linking Mladic to these crimes? And I must say that I am unimpressed by the job that the prosecutor has done.

It is one thing to smear people in the media without of course giving him or people who are sympathetic to him an opportunity to respond and then trying him and convicting him in the court of public opinion that you manipulate. It is quite another to do that in court where no matter how biased the proceedings are, you still have to give the other side an opportunity to cross-examine your witnesses and to criticize your evidence and you also have to give the other side ultimately an opportunity to present their case.

We still haven’t observed the defense case with respect to Srebrenica, but we certainly have seen the prosecution case and they have failed to show two things that are really key: number one that what occurred in Srebrenica was a genocide involving 8,000 prisoners of war and the other thing that they failed to demonstrate was the link between General Mladic and the illegal executions that did occur there.

So, on that basis I think that I am justified in concluding that the prosecution has failed in documenting its Srebrenica charges.

Robles: As the president of the Srebrenica Historical Project, can you tell our listeners what really happened there?

Karganovic: Sure!What happened there was there was a UN protected enclave which contained a full division of the army of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the other side in the ethnic war in Bosnia (the other side from the standpoint of Bosnian-Serb forces) and from this enclave the Bosnian army units were staging raids against the Serbian towns and villages surrounding the enclave in spite of the fact that part of the agreement guaranteeing the enclave’s non-combatant status was their obligation to disarm, which never happened.

So, the goal of the operation in July of 1995 was to separate that enclave from a nearby enclave with a similar status called Žepa and they found complete lack of resistance and they took over the enclave, they found about 20,000 women, children and elderly and the men including the combatants gone, disappeared.

In a matter of days they discovered that they were staging a breakout towards Bosnian Muslim territory, about 60 km away, in the direction of Tuzla, and there were many clashes along the way, which resulted in numerous casualties on the Muslim side as well as on the Serbian side. But the Muslim side lost several thousand people in these clashes, which later came to be falsely represented as victims of execution and genocide.

This is John Robles you were listening to an interview with Mr. Stefan Karganovic he is the President of the Srebrenica Historical Project. Thank you very much for listening and we wish you the best wherever you may be.

21 May, 2014 22:52

NATO will not stop attempting to destroy Russia – Danijel Simic

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Under NATO there is no freedom of speech. Under NATO occupation, before the Afghanistan and Iraq wars, activists and people who spoke openly about human rights or even the rights of Serbia under the Dayton Accords, were taken to US military bases and beaten, if all other attempts to silence their voices failed.

Danijel Simic

Freedom, democracy, rule of law and human rights are flexible concepts for the elites behind the US-NATO war machine. In Bosnia - Herzegovina they are attempting to absorb the Srpska Republika, while in Serbia they staunchly insist on making Kosovo independent. As with Ukraine, this is a continued war to divide the Slavic world and to bring it to its knees or obliterate it entirely. We spoke to Danijel Simic – a writer, political analyst and activist about these issues, as well as the ongoing crisis in Ukraine.

Danijel Simic

Hello! This is John Robles, I’m speaking with Mr. Danijel Simic. He is a writer, a political activist, a commentator and the founder of the web resource.

Robles: Hello Sir! It’s a pleasure to be speaking with you.

Simic: The pleasure is all mine.

Robles: Can you tell our listeners a little bit about the situation that is going on in the Srpska Republika right now? Who is behind it? And give us a little bit of the history, please.

Simic: The Republika Srpska is a Serbian part of Bosnia. Until 1995, when the Dayton Peace Accord was founded, we used to have our army, we used to have our judiciary, we used to have our totally independent system of taxes. But from 1995 till now, under the pressure of the NATO forces, by brute force and by so-called high representative of the international community destroying every aspect of Dayton Peace Accords regarding Republika Srpska.

In the same time, they did totally the opposite in Serbia and Kosovo. Until the so-called independence in Kosovo they used to have totally the same documents and even flags from the same designer. You know, the NATO narco-cartel state in Kosovo has more or less the same flag as they made in Bosnia. So, the signature of the creators of those two states are visible to anyone who would like to look.

Robles: So, these are your national symbols, or the national symbols and you are saying that they were designed by whom?

Simic: By NATO forces, NATO analysts or NATO think tanks.

The main explanation why they do all that brute forces to first pacify us then civilize us and include us in the family of civilized nations in European Union.

Then, when they do that, they do totally the opposite things. In the Republika Srpska, for example, which is a part of Bosnia, which is more than a federal state… Bosnia consists of two entities. Those entities are, more or less, in 1995 they were complete, complete states with the armies. The Republika Srpska had their own army.

And now, under NATO, they extinguished that fire of independence or autonomy in a military way. So, now, the Republika Srpska has only her own police force. And that police force was also targeted in 2006 and there was an enormous pressure on the Republika Srpska to give up on their police.

The Republika Srpska will be reduced to some kind of citizens’ society without any prerogative. And that was the main purpose of any so-called international diplomats or representatives from the international community. That was their main purpose here in Bosnia or in the Republika Srpska.

In Kosovo, Serbia is an independent state and they took the path of an independent state by force, by an overwhelming force of all major countries. And they do totally the opposite. They don’t want to unify that state and they sponsor their people with a terrorist background and people who are trafficking people, and drugs and all kinds of illegal and forbidden substances.

Robles: Right. What is currently going on in the Srpska Republika, in Banja Luka with a supposed color revolution that they are trying to organize there? And can you tell us about President Dodik? How then, if they want to absorb the Srpska Republika, which is what it sounds like to me, what you are describing how is that, that you can have a president?

Simic: The Republika Srpska is currently in the state of pre-election hysteria. There will be elections in October. And the political parties are now in a full throttle to gain the trust of their voters.

And now in the Republika Srpska is a pretty dull situation, because we are talking about color revolutions. A pretty funny thing, because in the state of Bosnia, the so-called state, and the Republika Srpska, and Federation of Bosnia Herzegovina were under occupation of the NATO forces until they went to Iraq and Afghanistan. And now, more or less we can have like freedom of speech and more or less laws are respected by the international community.

Until the international forces went to Iraq and Afghanistan you could not freely speak in a public space of Republika Srpska, especially speak about rights of the Serbs or rights which are given by Dayton Peace Accords to the Republika Srpska. That was forbidden. If you tried to speak in that manner as I tried, you will be totally sanctioned by the international community, mainly in the matters that you will not gain any funds and you will not gain any commercial support.

And after that, if they do not succeed to extinguish your media or your think tank to express your thoughts about what is happening here, they will send you brute force, they will arrest you, they will take to Tuzla – the American military base – they will beat you up.

And they say – okay, we did that wrong, you are not suspect of a war crime. That was some other person and we made a mistake. But we have an international community of diplomatic and military, so we must be punished for your like total isolation in a physical and a psychological manner.

But what they are all doing, the President Dodik is now in some funny situation, because he was one of the leaders of the color revolution which took place in 1998 here in the Republika Srpska, when they extinguished lots of state prerogatives. Now in those times the Republika Srpska has their own license plates on a car, which were all in the Cyrillic alphabet. We have our own ID cards which were with the Serbian insignia – a two-headed eagle – with a Serbian insignia on it. And we have a Serbian flag and stuff like that.

Now, President Dodik was the person who under his first term as the Prime Minister of the Republika Srpska he gave all that under American pressure. But he was sponsored by the United States to be in power. But after that he learned the lesson, because he lost the next election, and he learned the lesson. His next appearance in a command post of our Republika Srpska meant he was a second time the Prime Minister. He learned that people doesn’t appreciate.

So, he is now leading a totally different politic – against the international community, against the Americans, who brought him into the power both times. So, they are now trying to get rid of him. So they will pressure him. There is, maybe same as in Ukraine, there is lots of corruption, there is lots of unemployment, there is lots of economic crisis here, but that is not the reason to violently overthrow some government.

In the Republika Srpska there will not be some kind of a color revolution, as we saw in Ukraine, because people here is totally aware, maybe not really on a conscious level but on a subconscious level. They remember 1998 and that color revolution which totally put us in a totally wrong direction after the Dayton Peace Accord.

Robles: What have the people in Banja Luka and the Srpska Republika learned? You said subconsciously they are aware of these manipulations. The people there in the Srpska Republika, they would rather have independence. They’ve seen what the West means by democracy. They’ve seen what the international community means by human rights etc. What is your opinion on- let’s say those words - democracy, the international community and what their intentions are for the Srpska Republika?

Simic: For me, personally, when I hear the phrases as democracy, rule of law free society, open society, I’m all flat, I'm terrified, when someone is trying to speak about such things. And certainly in Bosnia Herzegovina, in that Muslim Croats part, especially in the parts with the majority of Muslim people we had a colored revolution of some kind.

It was a real revolution, in the matter that they burnt some government buildings and overtook them, and stuff like that, because that was the plan of Muslim politicians here in Bosnia to make to international community, but some will look they see burning buildings, battles with police and stuff like that. But that was only in the parts which are settled by Muslims.

Their plan was to make some new convention about Bosnia on which they will proclaim that Bosnia is unfunctional state because the Republika Srpska, because the Republika Srpska is always being blamed for everything that you can imagine. Everything is Republika Srpska to blame.

So they try to do that, and even if one citizen in the Republika Srpska, even one in Banja Luka to throw a stone on some government buildings, they will call violations of international convention and they will make a new constitution of Bosnia. People here are subconsciously and consciously totally aware of what their plan was, and so that plan wasn’t fulfilled as they planned.

So, when we see what is going on in Ukraine, it has the same signature as was in former Yugoslavia. The same forces which tore apart the former Yugoslavia are doing now that same thing in Ukraine. They are like totally satisfied when the Russian people or Slavic people wage wars against themselves.

And what I'm seeing now in Ukraine is totally awful. I’m like totally disgusted what the West is capable to do just to gain some political power. It is totally the same as it was in the past. If you take like Hitler’s opinion that Ukraine and the western parts of Russia will be Ostland or eastern lands to settle the German people, because they needed their liebenstraum or a large space for living.

So, it is happening in the European Union. The European Union is trying to overtake Ukraine from the Russian zone of influence. And by my opinion, that happening now in Ukraine is the Cuban crisis in the Russian backyard and Russia must react really strongly. If they do not do what Kennedy did in the Cuban crisis, the consequences will be devastating to Russia.

Robles: Where do you think the situation in Ukraine is headed? Where do you see this going, let’s say, in six months or a year?

Simic: Full-scale civil war, which is terrible. And what Russia now needs to do is to strongly backup those so-called pro-Russian activists on the east and that federation of people who will like to have a federation of Ukraine, with some larger portion of land which is Russian speaking, and to have more rights of the Russian language and stuff like that. Russia must threaten with their army to reason these people from the illegal government in Ukraine to stop using army against their own people.

They do not hesitate, they use force. They will send tanks on Slavyansk, they will send tanks on Kramatorsk, they will send tanks to Odessa, they will send tanks to Donetsk, they don’t care. My prediction to the crisis in Ukraine is not so bright, it is gloomy to the Russian side, because Russia is acting pretty sustaining. Russia must react strongly and Russia must put cash flow, you know money flow into Ukraine and other countries.

For example, here in the Republika Srpska is a fertile ground to have good pro-Russian agenda here in the republic. But the Russian presence here is through some companies, who are writing in Latin alphabet, contents not to offend Muslims and Croats and they are not publically advertise themselves as the Russian companies or do any deeds which will improve Russia’s positions here.

Most of the people here in the Republika Srpska, because of the totally media domination of the Western powers from 1995 till now, they think that Russia is some backward dark state of conquered and conquered unions and poverty. And the fact that Russia is the 8th economy in the world, they do not know that, because nobody is speaking to them.

For example, Russian channels, when they appear here, they slowly but strongly extinguish them. So there is a lot of cable operators which are now possessed by some NATO countries, they switched off the Russian channels in the time of crisis in Ukraine. So, they are, and that government in Kiev, do not hesitate. They are doing the same here.

Robles: What is the West’s paranoia and insanity about Russia and the Slavic world, in your opinion?

Simic: Slavic people, which are mostly represented by Russia, as the largest nation and with the most technological and economic advances to the other nations, they look at Russia as a fertile ground, to Russian civil wars and all those things which will implode in Russia. They are trying to do with Russia what they did with the Soviet Union.

They pumped cash flows through the NGOs in all of Russia. You know of Ukraine there is more than 400 NGOs in Ukraine which are receiving unimaginable amounts of money. Until the recent times you cannot do anything if you have not the support of the NGOs from the United States or the European Union.

Robles: They are not here anymore, thank God for that!

Simic: When you meet even the most liberal Americans, they will say – "okay, we are terrorizing all the world and we are opposing ourselves as a world’s policeman, but if we didn’t to not do that, someone will do that to us". And that’s why they will not stop.

This is John Robles, you were listening to an interview with Danijel Simic. He is a writer, a political analyst, activist and commentator from the Srpska Republika. He is also the founder of the web resource.

Thank you very much for listening, and as always I wish you the best wherever you may be.

You can reach John at

20 May, 2014 21:07

Pres Putin Has Made the World Multi-Polar Vice President of Republika Srpska Dr. Emil Vlajki

President Putin has made the world multi-polar – Vice President of Republika Srpska Dr. Emil Vlajki

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The world is no longer a unipolar place and thanks to President Vladimir Putin the US and the West are no longer going to be the masters of the world. This was stated in an exclusive Voice of Russia interview with the Vice President of the Republika Srpska Professor Emil Vlajki. He said the West will align and form alliances with anybody, even with evil if it is in their national interest to do so, and that there is no morality in their policies. For Ukraine the US "interest" is having missiles on Russia's border. As for the current sanctions against Russia Doctor Vlajki called them "ridiculous", and said that in reality it is the Russian Federation who can sanction the West.

Hello this is John Robles, you are listening to an interview with the Vice President of the Republika Srpska Dr. Emil Vlajki.

Robles: I’d like to get your reaction regarding the reaction from the Russian Government to the heavy flooding that is unprecedented in Serbia, Bosnia, Herzegovina. What is going on there?

Vlajki: It is quite a normal reaction about it…. If you need help, somebody is going to help you and of course Russian government never refused to do it – nothing commercial, just a humane gesture.

Robles: What about the reaction from the European Union?

Vlajki: I don’t know almost anything about the reaction of the European Union. I think that Zagreb decided to send some people and some help, but not more than that.

Robles: Can you tell us a little bit about the upcoming elections and what’s been going on in the Srpska Republic with NGOs etc., and their attempts to start a color revolution there?

Vlajki: Of course, it is an attempt to replace, by somebody else who is probably having deals with the European Union and the United States. This is an orange revolution and it happens in the whole world, everywhere.

Robles: Have you been pressured yourself in an attempt to influence your positions or your decisions in government? That you can talk about…

Vlajki: No, they cannot do it because I have published so many books about the nefarious influence western civilization on the Serbian people and I cannot be bought by anybody and they know it and they are not going to try, of course.

My books, for example, American Terror or Demonization of Serbs, The New Totalitarian Society and the Destruction of Yugoslavia and so on, cannot encourage anybody to change my position.

Robles: Wonderful! Can you compare what happened in Yugoslavia with what is going on in the Srpska Republic, in Serbia and Kosovo and right now in Ukraine as far as the American “operation”, if we want to call it that?

Vlajki: Of course, they occupied Kosovo and after that they took it by the Brussels agreement and the Serbs surrendered Kosovo by agreement from Brussels. They believe that by giving up Kosovo they are going to become a part of the European Union but of course it is not true at all.

Robles: I have the same belief myself, I mean that that is a lie.

Vlajki: That is because the West cannot believe Serbian people because people from the western civilizations believe that Serbs are going to always be friends of Russian people and they don’t trust Serbs.

They are going to submit, I don’t believe it, or to destroy Serbia. It means that after Kosovo there could appear the separation of Vajodina, Sandžak and so on. They are going to arrange it.

Robles: So, the destruction of Serbia as well…

Vlajki: It is in their timing of course.

Robles: Are they operating on some sort of timeframe because the are trying to do the same thing now to the Srpska Republic, aren’t they?

Vlajki: It is a little harder probably because President Dodik decided to pursue the Russian way. He believes that this is the only way for Republika Srpska and President Dodik has big support amongst his own people. And it has to be replaced by somebody else in order to change this pro-Russian policy.

Robles: Speaking about referendums, I am talking about Kosovo and Crimea in particular, the West made false statements that there was a referendum in Kosovo when they tried to say the referendum in Crimea was illegitimate. Can you comment on that? Is there a possibility of a referendum in the Srpska Republic so that it becomes completely independent?

Vlajki: Yes, of course, logically it is possible also for Republika Srpska to leave in the same way. But I don’t think that it is possible because I don’t think that Russia with its problems, with Ukraine now is going to help anybody, to be engaged to help.

It is very difficult to imagine that anybody is going to support the referendum of Republika Srpska for independence. And at this very moment it is possible only to fortify Republika Srpska, to fortify its position as a kind of semi-independent state, nothing more than this, and it is only possible to fortify the actual position of Republika Srpska, not more than that. I don’t think that now a referendum is possible.

Robles: Yourself and president Dodik, that is what you are attempting to do?

Vlajki:To tell you the truth, we have all kinds of papers readyto proclaim the Independent State of Republika Srpska but it is only our wish. I don’t think that there are realistic possibilities to do it. I don’t think that anybody is going to help us, especially Serbia and so on. I don’t think so. If somebody, as Russia for example, could give us the real promise, the real support very openly, we could do it. But without open support, I don’t think so.

Robles: I’d like you to comment on the so-called (it is the West’s favorite phrase) “international community”. Do you see that “international community” moving away from that US hegemony, as far as the BRICs countries, the Asian Union, etc.?

Vlajki:Really I don’t know what is the international community. The international community must be the whole world, not only just a little part of the world.

Western civilization pretends that they are the international community. It means the US, Western Europe, Australia, Canada and so on. But this is only a small part of the international community and I think that this is not a unipolar world anymore and now with the appearance of Russia and China and maybe India, Brazil, at this very moment China and Russia, they cannot be the masters, if I can say, of the world.

In last 20 years they were really the masters of the world but now with Putin I don’t think that it is going to happen anymore.

The US and the Western Europe are masters of the world but if it is so, after Putin I don’t think they will continue, it is possible anymore.

Robles: That is good to hear. If I could ask you some questions about Ukraine and the rise of fascism in Europe, the rise of neo-Nazi groups in Europe: the people of the Srpska Republic, the people of Serbia and people all over Europe suffered under Nazism. What is your opinion on the US using Nazis to form a violent coup d’etat?

Vlajki: They don’t care of course about Nazism in Ukraine or anywhere else. They care only about their national interests.

It could be with fascists, with Communists, with capitalists, socialists, with anybody, if it corresponds to their national interests, they are going to make alliance with these kinds of people and of course in Ukraine it is neo-fascism, but it corresponds in some way to the western, so called, national interests.

They are going to align with the evil, if it is in their national interests (thast means the interests of the US) there is no morality in (their )politicies.

Robles: You as a vice president, I am sure you know more than I do about national interests, what are, in your opinion, the actual national interests of the US in Ukraine? Is it NATO expansion?

Vlajki: The national interests of the US, because they are leading the new cold war against Russia, their "national interest" (under quotation), is to put the anti-missile shield on the borders of Russia in order to manage Russia. That is their interest and Ukraine has a border with Russia and the American national interest is the shield in order to hurt Russia and that is it.

Robles: What about the energy resources, the territory?

Vlajki: They would like to divide Russia, of course, in order to get some part of territory because of gas and oil and so on. Natural wealth. They would like to divide it and to get it of course. Their national interest would be also to get part of Russia of course, but of course it is not possible at all because of the smart and courageous policy of Putin pf course.

Robles: Yes, I think Putin has done a lot, has done everything to protect Russia and the Russian people.

Vlajki: He is a smart person. I think that after Peter the Great, Catherine the Great and Lenin, Stalin, Putin is a historical person.

Robles: Yes, I agree with you 100%.

The Serbian people, the Ukrainian people, the Russian people are Slavic people. The Slavic people, the Slavs, have never engaged in aggressive war, the Slavs have never engaged in genocide. Is this a war against the Slavic people, do you think? Is this continuation of dividing Ukraine, dividing Russia, dividing Serbia?

Vlajki: I don’t think it is anything against Slavs. They have Bulgaria, they have the Orthodox country Greece and so on. It is just that Russia is the biggest country in the world with so many national resources.

Robles: What is your opinion on the sanctions that West has waged against Russia?

Vlajki:It is the funny part of the problem. They cannot impose anything on Russia. It is ridiculous. It is very funny. It is Russia who has natural wealth and Russia is able to sanction Western Europe and even the US. The contrary is not possible, in my opinion.

Robles: I agree with you. Russia could just turn off the gas, they could just stop the flow of oil.

Vlajki: It is not only the gas but many other things. But it doesn’t matter the gas can be enough.

Robles: Russian politicians also thought it was a sign of honor – these sanctions, everybody laughed at them because Russian politicians don’t have money in foreign accounts and they don’t have businesses in America. So, the whole thing is ridiculous.

Robles: It is ridiculous. Is Europe being hurt more by these so-called sanctions?

Vlajki: Europe is trying to be independent from the US but at this very moment this is not quite possible. The interests of Europe, Germany for example, is to be mostly with Russia, more than with the US. But for some historical reasons they cannot do it at this very moment.

Robles: What would you like to say to the Serbian people who mibght be listening?

Vlajki: I could say that it is not smart for the Serbian people to enter in any kind of military pact of alliance or anything like that.

Also the Serbian people have to pursue an independent economic, cultural policy and so on and not to belong to the New World Order, to the new cold war against Russia for example, to be the part of one or the other side. It must be independent in my opinion.

Robles: You’ve just mentioned a very interesting phrase - "the New World Order". As someone at the top level of government, as a vice president, can you tell us what is that New World Order? For people who think it might just be some conspiracy.

Vlajki:It is the domination of the Western Civilization over the whole world. That is it.

Robles: That’s it!

Vlajki: It is an American world order.

Robles: That’s it… It is an American world order….

Vlajki: Yeah! Yeah!

Robles: Can I ask you about the upcoming elections in the Srpska Republic because I think it is very important for the people?

Vlajki:Dodik is going to be the president probably, and about Parliament, I really don’t know. It will be 50/50. But Dodik certainly is going to be the new president.

Robles: What is the path going to be for the first couple of years of the new Dodik Administration?

Vlajki:I am not too sure. It will be very tight! He is going to be the president but about majority I really don’t know.

Robles: Can you tell us about a couple of the books you’ve written?

Vlajki:Oh my books!? What was my last book? Few of my books are written in English and French, for example the "Poverty of the World", "American Terror", "Demonization of Serbs", "The New Totalitarian Society and the Destruction of Yugoslavia". And I wrote two books of poetry, the first one is something against Globalism, one part of this poetry the name is like Hamlet "To Be or Not to Be", and the other one is "Wandering Jew". My mother was a Jew, my father was a Croat.

Robles: Wonderful! Can you tell us one of your poems?

Vlajki:Who is going to be interested in my poems?

Robles: I am interested. I’d like to hear something in Serbian.

Vlajki:I don’t believe you (laughs). You are very kind but you are a political journalist.

Robles: People are interested in anything vice presidents or presidents do.

Vlajki: If you can read it in Serbo-Croatian, of course, I could send you by email, but my poems are published in Belgrade, one in Zagreb, and another one in Belgrade. I sold both of them in 2000. It is a big deal for our little country.

Robles: I write poetry myself. So, I am really genuinely interested. I love poetry. It is one of the few beautiful things that humans produce, I think.


This is John Robles, you are listening to an interview with the Vice President of the Republika Srpska Dr. Emil Vlajki.

20 May, 2014 00:56

Russia saving lives amid humanitarian catastrophe in Serbia – Boris Malagurski

Russia saving lives amid humanitarian catastrophe in Serbia – Director MalagurskiBoris Malagurski

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The flooding in Serbia is the worst natural disaster that has hit the country in over 120 years. The Russian Emergency Situations Ministry (EMERCOM) has deployed emergency response forces and equipment to Serbia after a decision was made by the Government of the Russian Federation initiated at the request of the Government of the Republic of Serbia after Serbia was hit by devastating unprecedented flooding reports EMERCOM. According to EMERCOM rescuers with the air search and rescue unit "Centrospas" and from the high risk rescue group "Leader" have been deployed to assist the Serbian people as they struggle to deal with the aftermath and continuing flooding which has seen almost the entire country mercilessly submerged under water. We spoke to Boris Malagurski, a Canadian/Serbian filmmaker and one of the people in Serbia assisting with the aftermath of the disaster.

Boris Malagurski

Robles: Hello, Sir. How are you? It is the middle of the night already, how are you?

Malagurski: I’m doing good. Hello, I am a little tired it’s been a rough day. Well, it’s been rough a couple of days, but I’m doing OK and the best that I can to help in the situation.

Robles: I understand you were in Šabac today and you were helping deliver humanitarian aid. We are starting to get reports of a very, very dire and serious situation in Serbia. Can you tell us, what you saw?

Malagurski: Absolutely, there are people in Šabac that are in dire need of food, water and just basic necessities.

We took kits that have several kinds of substances for disinfection, to keep the sanitary level at an adequate level.

I contacted a couple of people. I was contacted by some students from Belgrade University who wanted to help out and they collected, with the help of people throughout Belgrade and the country, lots of supplies and we went to Šabac.

The Sava River is pretty high and even close to the road, they had to put sand bags just to protect the road. But, at several points the water is seeping through, which is making it very difficult for traffic to go by and for people, to actually get to Šabac.

In fact they are not even letting regular cars go by. Only when we told the police that we were carrying food and supplies for everybody in Šabac, then they let us go through. And when we got to Šabac, what we saw was basically people, who were very, very worried about what was going on; people, who are not very well coordinated in the effort to save the city; people, who have not received food for a very long time, even the people who are working there, who have volunteered and came to Šabac from all parts of Serbia to help out in the effort, many of them haven’t eaten or drank anything since last night.

This is kind of like a frantic effort to avoid what has already happened in Obrenovac. Now, Obrenovac is close to Belgrade, much closer to Belgrade, where the river has flooded the entire city. The government has said they are not even going to announce any reports about how many people have died in Obrenovac. But I have reports from friends, who have indicated that the numbers might be pretty staggering. It’s so much worse than anybody could imagine.

In Obrenovac, we just received information that there is a school that has been waiting to be evacuated for the past couple of days. So, it’s much more criticle there, but what is important is that they are trying to save Šabac and the other critical cities, Sremska Mitrovica. The government has just called 2,000 volunteers to go to Sremska Mitrovica and try to save the city.

What’s important, about Šabac though is if the sand bags give way to the water there are several industries in Šabac that produce very deadly chemicals, that if they were released into the water, it could really cause a mess.

Robles: Oh My God.

Malagurski: Yeah, so it’s pretty horrible. So, everybody is doing the best they can. Last night, estimates are between 5,000 and 10,000 people showed up from Belgrade to Šabac to help with the efforts there.

So, people in Serbia have really woken up and they realize that the situation is really, really horrible and not only to go there and put sand bags, where it’s needed, but also to help out with food, with equipment.

There were streams and streams of people; everybody had at least two bags in their hands, full of supplies, full of food, water, medicine, baby food. So, it’s really, in a way, heart-warming to see, that the people have really opened up their hearts to all these people who have been very displaced.

I personally know several people, who accepted some families into their homes, trying to help. So, it’s a really horrible situation in Serbia in terms of the floods. But the people with their generosity and their hearts are, you know, restoring many people’s faith in humanity.

There are still several waves that are coming from Croatia, because as they successfully build dams that is great for those villages but as the water passes and builds up it gets worse and worse and the worst of it is going to be in Serbia.

Hrtkovci is very critical. The government has just said: “Don’t go to Hrtkovci,” because it’s a very horrible situation down there.

The government is now focusing on evacuating Obrenovac, which is under water still. As I am seeing Šabac and Sremska Mitrovica are still critical. After that passes, we’re going to have a very painstaking process, because a lot of cattle are dead and of course because a lot of people have unfortunately died now we are still waiting for the numbers.

Now we have to work on containing any sort of disease that might breakout. In a sports hall in Belgrade they are already starting to wear masks and there is an outbreak of sorts (this is an unconfirmed report).

So, we’re really trying to do our best in helping the people, feeding the people, making sure that they are safe, but it is very uncertain at this point, because you never know how high the water is going to go. You know, I think we all have to pray a little bit that the water won’t go too high up.

Robles: Have there been any reports of looting?

Malagurski: Moments before the interview, I learned of some gangs in Obrenovac, going with their boats and going inside shops and abandoned homes and stealing stuff.

We’ve heard reports that there are certain shops that have boosted the prices, some say 2 or 3 euros for a loaf of bread.

The Ministry of Trade has issued a warning, but we still can’t even control the scope of it.

Number one priority is to try to help these people that are in dire need of help. So, unfortunately, there are always story which are bad where people will try to exploit the situation and use it in personal way.

Robles: Can you tell us, have you had any contact with Russia’s EMERCOM, with Emergency Situations Ministry, apparently they are heavily involved in Obrenovac?

Malagurski: I’m aware, they are. And, you know, people are aware of this throughout Serbia that the Russian government, the Russian people are really helping us. This means a lot, because we regard Russia as our brothers and it is really refreshing and really heart-warming to see how much effort the Russian team is putting in into saving lives.

I personally have not had any contact with them because the people working in Obrenovac are professionals, but we all know that they are working very hard, we’ve seen the images on TV and we’ve seen interviews, we’ve seem what they are doing. They are well-equipped, well-trained, and I would just liked to use this opportunity in the name of Serbian people to thank the Russian people for being with us in this time of need.

Just a reminder you are listening to an interview with Boris Malagurski.

Robles: As far as the Serbian government; have they been issuing any statements for people to leave certain areas?

Malagurski: They have been issuing statements basically telling people to listen to the authorities, because the problems that we have had in certain areas, where there were evacuations and people go out on the street and they see that there is just a little bit of water and they think themselves: “Ah, this isn’t anything bad.”

And then it hits! In a very short period of time the water appears and then they need help. A lot of people refused to be evacuated only to be in big trouble afterwards.

In Belgrade it is stable at the moment, there are teams at this moment on the other side of the Sava close to the Island of Ada where they are putting up sand bags and there are teams on the Novy Belgorod or New Belgrade side of the Sava as well and they will go well into tomorrow.

All of the basically low areas of the city they are trying to protect, because the big wave is coming sometime tomorrow or the next day. So, right now, it’s stable, but people are very well organized. I personally don’t expect there to be any big problems in Belgrade. And I think it is really critical to help out the cities that are outside of Belgrade and that are less protected than Belgrade.

Robles: Are you getting reports from Bosnia and Herzegovina, Montenegro, Kosovo, Bulgaria, that we might not be getting? Western Ukraine is supposed to be flooding as well. What about the other parts of Serbia?

Malagurski: I mostly know about what’s going on in Serbia as I said: there are places that haven’t been in touch with the rest of the world, for example the city of Krupin has been cut off from the rest of Serbia for the past three days. And they’ve been pulling through be themselves, because it’s very hard to approach these cities but they finally have gotten to them today and were getting stories of people that have not slept for days there trying to protect Krupin and many harvests are destroyed simply taken away by the mudflow and the landslides, and stuff like that. There are landslides in several areas around Serbia. So, it’s pretty critical in most places, for example where the Zaiko Morava River has flooded its banks, as for Bosnia we are getting some reports of flooding there the city of Dubway is the most critical where water has reached the fourth floor of some buildings.

Robles: The fourth floor?

Malagurski: Yeah, this one family that is on the fourth floor, they are basically barely safe there. The water is right beneath them and the situation is out of control in many parts of Bosnia.

The Serbian media is much more focus about on what’s happening over here, because there is so much to do right here, right now, but in Bosnia, I know in Dubway, it’s catastrophic. In some other parts like Tusla it is also pretty bad. They have evacuated Dvornik and some other places.

So, they are doing the best they can as well over there and Serbia has received help from some other courtiers, like Obrenovac where the Russians are really helping out is really critical at this point.

We are all waiting to see, how many people have died there, because it’s much much worse that anybody could imagine.

Robles: Could you comment on the European Union? Have they been actively helping?

Malagurski: I think the best description of how the EU sees the situation in Serbia is when Catherine Ashton said: “our minds are with you”. That is great but we need some substantial help.

I do believe several EU countries have sent some kind of aid. I personally haven’t seen it, I’ve heard much about it unlike the Russian help where you can actually see them and they are doing something and it is actually saving people’s lives.

With other countries like EU countries, I can’t personally see what is going on, so I am not going to claim that they haven’t done much but I personally haven’t seen it.

From what they’ve been saying on TV or seeing how much media in the EU are covering, or should I say not covering the mess in Serbia, really shows they have much different priorities than saving lives in Serbia.

Robles: That’s horrible.

Malagurski: If anybody is listening, we would really appreciate as much help as we can get from other counties. We have got help, I am not saying that we didn’t but the situation is critical. It is really the worst natural disaster Serbia has gone through, I believe for the past 125 years. So, we need a little bit more help and less of somebody feeling bad about us. We need people to come here and help us like the Russians have.

Robles: Right, right! While I got you on the air. What numbers, what websites, where can people go to… I don’t know, maybe donate something? Maybe they can volunteer or something or somehow help.

Malagurski: There is a website for everybody outside of Serbia who would like to donate and help. It’s called They have donations with credit cards, PayPal and they are very transparent, one of the very few humanitarian organizations I really trust because every donation they get, they put it on the website. Basically if people want to help, they can go on the website, they can help as much as they can.

There is a lot of people in Serbia who want to help out, who want to go and dig up the sand and put it in bags and everything. But for example one of the problems they have they don’t have enough shovels, they don’t have enough send. They are trying to get enough trucks to bring the sand.

For the first night, last night, when people went to Šabac to volunteer, what basically happened is there was a bunch of people in a line waiting to carry the sand bags and there would be one truck that would bring in the sand bags, they take them all out and within 15 minutes they put them in place and it was done, and they were waiting for another hour for the truck to show up again.

That is how little supplies we have. There are enough people who want to help but we need more supplies, we need more expertise, somebody who is trained, who knows what to do in these types of situations, to organize the masses that are going out and trying to help in any way possible. So, any kind of expertise, any kind of donations for supplies would really mean a lot to the people of Serbia right now.

Robles: So, they have a site, they have a PayPal mechanism. What about some other sites, phone numbers for the ministries or something where people could possibly find out about their loved ones?

Malagurski: If people go on the website click on the English version, they can find information on how to donate from outside, and if you click on any news about the flooding in Serbia, you will find information about the account that was set up by the government for donations for the flood victims, and it is on the website of Serbian government as well. If you type in “Serbian government” on Google and you go on the website, you can find that as well.

I’d really like to ask everybody around the world who has seen the images of the flooding, who has heard what the floods are doing to the people of Serbia and how many people are at risk, to open their hearts and help us in any way possible because they can really save life, they can save life by any kind of donation that they are capable of doing because we really need it. A small donation goes a long way in Serbia. So, any amount is greatly appreciated and we really are very happy that there are people who have opened up their hearts and support. So, together with everybody who is with us at this moment, we will pull through.

Robles: I would also ask everybody who is listening to this to please try to do something concrete to help the people in Serbia.


You were listening to an interview with Mr. Boris Malagurski. He is a Serbian-Canadian film director and an activist. Thank you very much for listening and we wish you the best wherever you may be.

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17 May, 19:12

Russia's EMERCOM Responds First to Assist Serbian Flood Victims John Robles

Russia's EMERCOM responds first to assist Serbian flood victims

The Russian Emergency Situations Ministry (EMERCOM) has deployed emergency response forces and equipment to Serbia after a decision was made by the Government of the Russian Federation initiated at the request of the Government of the Republic of Serbiaafter the county was hit by devastating unprecedented flooding reports EMERCOM. According to EMERCOM rescuers with the air search and rescue unit "Centrospas" and from the high risk rescue group "Leader" have been deployed to assist the Serbian people as they struggle to deal with the aftermath and continuing flooding which has seen almost the entire country mercilessly submerged under water.


EMERCOM reports that an unspecified number of the ministry’s rapid response Ilyushin 76 (IL-76) aircraft took off from the Russian Emergencies Ministry’s airfield in the Moscow region city of Ramenskoye. According to EMERCOM (at the moment of writing) more than 70 of the best-trained rescuers along with high-tech rescue equipment, including wetsuits, diving and special equipment were onboard, although that number will definitely go up.

The rescue teams will also be taking motorboats and are equipped for completely autonomous rescue operations in the flood zone for a period of more than 15 days. Hence constant contact and reinforcement will not be necessary as the rescuers set out on their task to assist as many people as they possible can in a volatile environment where time is of the essence.

Specialists from the Republic of Serbia’s Russian-Serbian Humanitarian Center are directly involved in rescue operations. One of the center’s tasks is to eliminate the effects of natural disasters on the territory of Serbia and other Balkan countries. The center has already mobilized with water pumps and mobile power stations in order to assist the flood stricken population.

Russian First Responders First to Respond, thousands evacuated

The Russian Federation has been the first country to respond during the dire time of need of the Serbian people with many Serbians dismayed by the almost complete lack of response from the European Union and other countries. EMERCOM continues to deploy equipment and personnel as the magnitude of the devastation begins to grow clearer.

So far Russian rescuers are credited with saving thousands of lives with one operation seeing almost 400 people rescued including at least 79 children. According to B92 Russian rescuers were immediately deployed to Obrenovac, “… where they were met by Serbian PM Aleksandar Vučić, ministers of the interior and defense, Nebojša Stefanović and Bratislav Gašić, and Russian Ambassador Aleksandr Chepurin.”

As of this writing close to 8,000 people have had to be evacuated, with those numbers continuing to rise as rains continue drenching the Republic and the region. The unprecedented flooding has affected the entire country and the neighboring states. Videos have already been uploaded to YouTube with pleas for help as the magnitude of the flooding continues to affect millions.

Serbian Government Declares State of Emergency

According to the Serbian news portal B92 a nationwide state of emergency was declared on Thursday by the Serbian government in the entire territory of the republic. According to B92:“… the government sent a letter to the Russian government, the European Commission and the Slovenian government asking for humanitarian and technical help to address the consequences of floods, it was stated after the government's session. The government ordered the Directorate for Commodity Reserves to deliver to the most affected areas a thousand tons of commercial corn needed as feed. The state of emergency in the territory of entire Serbia was declared on the request of the National Emergency Situations Headquarters, which earlier on Thursday conferred to discuss the heavy rainfall and floods.”

Reaction on the Ground

Svetlana Maksovic with the Serbian monthly Geopolitika said that … many Serbian people are upset by the reaction, or lack of reaction thereof, of the European Union especially after EU Foreign Policy Head Catherine Ashton did nothing more than send her condolences.”

Maksovic who is in Belgrade said that the Serbians from across the country and the political spectrum are grateful to Russia for its huge response. She was particularly taken by a friend of hers who used to criticize Russia. She stated: “… But a friend of mine, who used to critisize Russia, saying they helped us only out of interest... sent me a message today saying he withdraws everything bad he has ever said about Russia and Russians and that he is impressed by their huge and quick help!”

Milica Djurdjevic a well-known political activist and the Public Relations Head for Srpski sabor Zavetnici, an organization for patriots of Serbia wrote the following about the situation in Serbia for the Voice of Russia:

"The situation in Serbia is extremely difficult. The material damage is immeasurable, but our main preoccupation now is the number of victims which is still unknown to the public. Floods have caused serial damage in Obrenovac, one of the most populated municipalities in Belgrade. Many inhabitants, especially women, children and older people, are still captured in their houses, without food and eletricity. The evacuation in Obrenovac is still in progress. More than 10 thousand people from all over the country and nearby region came yesterday to the city of Šabac to prevent the flooding of Sava river."

"Unfortunately, many cities in Serbia have not received any kind of emergency help yet. People are starting to panic because the Government does not have enough capacities to ensure immediate assistance to all of them. The local authorities are also not sufficiently organised. In these moments we can see that Serbia does not possess enough military capacities to provide emergency help. However, I am especially grateful to all young people who have shown their unity and provided help and support in all critical areas."

"This tragedy is a chance for the Serbian people to see who are his real friends and allies in Europe and in the rest of the world. Our Government has requested help from the European Commission but for now all we have received from them are just bare words and some issued letters of support. On the other hand we immediatelly received material help from our historical friends and allies from the Russian Federation. According to the information that we possess Russian soldiers have rescued more than 400 people and 79 children. We have also received material help from Slovenia. Meanwhile, many volounters came from Macedonia and Montenegro. I would also like to mention our brothers and sisters from Kosovo and Metohija that came last night to Šabac to help us."

"We are extremely grateful to the Russian Federation which had never let us down! Russian special forces made an extreme effort in Obrenovac. They are using boats to rescue people from the flooded houses, transporting injured, but unfortunately there are also many dead people. We will never forget all the support and help provided to us from Russia!"

"A few days ago we organized the so called “Walking for Russia” on the streets of Belgrade. The reason for this manifestation were the ongoings in Ukraine in the past several months. More than 1000 people gathered on the streets of our capital city to support Russia and to emphasize their historical friendship with our orthodox brothers. They were carrying Serbian and Russian flags and a transparent that said: “Glory to Russia!” We regret that our Government hasn`t shown more understanding for the Russian people in Ukraine and supported the referendums in Lugansk and Donetck region. We pray for peace and freedom of the Russian nation, hoping that they will get united again!"

"Greetings from little Serbia to all of your listeners. In these difficult moments Russia is our only hope!"

Sergey Belous a political observer and a volunteer who helped save the city of Šabac wrote the following opinion of the events he saw:

"When I arrived at the meeting point for the volunteers who were going to Šabac to help fight the flood I was surprised to find an enormous crowd of several thousand people. All of them were unbelievably enthusiastic. The guys were almost trying to 'break into' the overcrowded buses that were going to take them to the location. As if they were escaping from the flood, not going to the place where it was about to happen! Unfortunately, the local authorities were not very organized and there was no active coordination between different people, not enough special equipment (not even shovels) and there were no heads of groups appointed. The Serbs however managed to organize themselves, notwithstanding the mess partly created by local bureaucrats. They worked the whole evening and the whole night in the mud under the torrential rain to save Šabac from the fate of other flooded Serbian towns."

The European Commission's Emergency Response Coordination Centre (ERCC)

On its website the ERCC claims that requests for water pumps and rescue teams was answered positively within a matter of hours but as of this writing no concrete reports confirming active assistance have been received. ERCC: “Serbia's urgent request for high capacity water pumps and operational teams was channeled through the EU Emergency Response Coordination Centre (ERCC) and was answered positively within a matter of hours. Bulgaria, Germany, and Slovenia are currently arranging the deployment of rescue boats, high capacity pumps and operational teams in Serbia. Following the same procedure, Slovenia and Austria responded to the request of Bosnia & Herzegovina, offering a helicopter and a number of motor boats to support the evacuation of residents and transportation water, medicines and food.”

HAARP to Blame for Anomalous Flooding???

Many of my contacts in Serbia have spoken of whispered accusations that the unprecedented flooding and unusual weather patterns in the last few years have something to do with the US’ HAARP system. According to one website: "A Serbian journalist was advised not to write about a HAARP installation near Belgrade. After series of texts regarding HAARP antenna system near Barajevo (Belgrade municipality) and application of this ELF system in Serbia the journalist of newspaper Pravda has received a phone call on Monday evening around 10PM from unlisted phone number. The voice on other side of the line gave the journalist a "friendly advice" to stop writing on HAARP."

If you discount the ability of HAARP to manipulate weather then this quote published by Slate might interest you: “David Walker—the deputy assistant secretary of the Air Force for science, technology and engineering—gave in a Senate hearing about the closure on Wednesday. He said, "We're moving on to other ways of managing the ionosphere, which the HAARP was really designed to do. To inject energy into the ionosphere to be able to actually control it. But that work has been completed."

Would it be surprising if the US, after unleashing neo-Nazis in Ukraine, unleashed flooding in Serbia? Those in the know would probably say no.

23 April, 22:03

US Regime Change Attempt Underway in Republika Srpska Stephan Karganovic


US regime change attempt underway in Republika Srpska - Stephan Karganovic

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The practice of regime change through color revolutions and destabilization practiced by the US can currently being seen in countries all over the world including Ukraine, Venezuela and the Serbskaya Republic. Russia has faced the entire US color revolution architecture and thanks to its strong security services was able to successfully fend off this form of attack on sovereignty. Smaller countries and territories like the Serbskaya Republic however are very vulnerable to the manipulations of USAID, Transparency International and the entire group of organizations and NGOs that the West uses to manipulate countries to submit to its hegemony.

The most effective weapon against these organizations is transparency and informing the public about their nefarious activities. Stephan Karganovic, the President of the Srebrenica Historical Project, discussed these issues with the Voice of Russia and actually named those responsible in the Serbskaya Republic.


Hello! This is John Robles, you are listening to an interview with Mr. Stephan Karganovic. He is the President of the Srebrenica Historical Project.

Robles: Hello Sir! How are you this fine evening?

Karganovic: Hi! I'm fine, thank you.

Robles: It is a pleasure to be speaking with you. Last time we spoke, it was before the coup in Ukraine. We spoke in February and you gave us your insights on what was going on in the Republika Srpska and regarding Ukraine. What do you think about what has happened in Ukraine? You pretty much predicted everything.

Karganovic: Well, it didn't take a crystal ball, just some good analytical acumen and following the news and connecting the dots.

Indeed, the one thing that I was unable to predict was the elegant response of Russian diplomacy and the fact that without much violence Russia is apparently succeeding in neutralizing the pro-nazi thugs who have taken over in Kiev, and who apparently want to extend and consolidate their control in the eastern parts of the country, which evidently loathes everything that they stand for and does not want to be associated with such a regime.

It was pretty easy to predict that there would be disorders, that people would not be willing to accept the dictate of this unrepresentative coup government willingly, but I am really surprised and delighted that things are going the way they are, which shows that there isn't very much popular support for the coup government beyond the militants who were used to bring it to power.

So, I think there is hope for a peaceful solution, which includes the federalization of the country and respect for the rights of all the citizens of Ukraine, without destroying the country. I think these are the most important priorities.

Robles: You are a specialist in color revolutions, can you tell us a little bit about Republika Srpska? If we recall, they tried to launch the same thing and it went away within (what was it?) 36 hours or something. That's continued there. Can you tell about what is going on now?

Karganovic: Yes, with pleasure. It is still in progress but they haven't really taken off the ground. It has not worked according to their expectations. And there are many reasons for that. I would say the major reasons are two.

Number one, the fact that ultimately this process in the Republika Srpska is being managed by people who are outsiders, total foreigners, who do not understand the culture and the mentality of the people. So, they are giving pretty poor instructions to their people on the ground. That's one reason.

The other reason is that their on the ground collaborators are a pretty pathetic bunch. They really have not been able to find and hire a first-class team. So, that shows in the numerous mistakes that they have made so far, and as a result they are at this point not getting anywhere.

However, I would caution, when you have a lot of money that you are willing and capable to throw at people, you can always accomplish things.

So, I would not underestimate the other side. They still have a couple of months before the elections which are scheduled in October to modify their strategy or to come up with new tactics. You never know what they will come up with.

So, one has to very carefully follow this process and be ready to respond, first of all, analytically and then politically as the circumstances may warrant.

Robles: Do you think they'll go so far as to organize events of violence?

Karganovic: Absolutely! Absolutely, I have no doubts. I would divide their plan into three variants, at this point: plan A is elections, which are scheduled, as I said, in October of this year in the Republika Srpska and throughout Bosnia and Herzegovina. Each entity will have its own electoral process. President Dodik is going to be the candidate for the current government and the ruling political coalition.

The opposition, which is largely under the influence of the West has not yet selected its candidate to oppose him. And that's pretty significant. They are bickering among themselves and they have not been able to agree on who is going to be the standard bearer for the opposition. They were going to announce that this month and they recently moved that to next month, to May. So, maybe in May we will find out who the opponent of the opposition will be.

But the main thing to bear in mind is that the elections will work for them under one of two conditions. One is: if their candidate has a good chance to win and the other is; if the election could be very close and then, of course, the standard procedure is to accuse the unsuitable candidate, the non-cooperative candidate, which in this case would be President Dodik, of having stolen the election. And then, they could put international pressure on him and so on and so forth. You know how that works. We've seen that in Yugoslavia in 2000, in Georgia and in other places. So, they manipulate things for them to come up on top.

Neither of those scenarios at this point look feasible, because President Dodik, contrary to all expectations, if you look at it from purely Western point of view, which is that people vote with their pocketbooks (you know, the American political wisdom), that doesn't really work here, because in addition to that…of course, normal people do take economic and social factors into account, but here other considerations are also present. And they are very influential, and they are not so tangible. So, they have failed to take that into account.

So, I think that the electoral option is something that they are slowly going to drop, because if they go that route – whomever they put up as the opposition candidate, the way things look like now Dodik is looking forward to a victory and a pretty impressive victory.

So, I think that plan B, and then I will come to plan C, plan B is: a Ukraine-style upheaval that would be totally managed and generated with the assistance of foreign special services. How successful that would be is also questionable at this point. They have been working on two parallel tracks.

They have already laid the groundwork for this sort of Ukrainian-style upheaval. But it is not getting anywhere right now in the Republika Srpska, which, again, doesn't mean that it may not take off in a month or two, if they modify their tactics. But at this point it is not going anywhere. So, it doesn't look very promising. They have two main phony NGOs that ar e pushing that option and they have not managed to mobilize a significant following.

So, plan C I think is the ethnic card. There is a Muslim minority in the Republika Srpska, just as there is a Serbian and Croatian minority in the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina. And they have been very active lately stirring up the Muslim minority and presenting their situation in the light that doesn't have much to do with the reality. But they are trying to portray Muslims as an oppressed and disenfranchised minority in the Republika Srpska.

Robles: They tried to do that in Ukraine too.

Karganovic: Yes, exactly! It is the same formula, yes, you are absolutely right. Their pattern is the same, the template is the same wherever you go. They are not very creative. So, it is the same thing, basically.

And they are trying to stir up civil disobedience and opposition to the government in the ranks of the Muslim minority here, which, I can assure you, is fully free. All its cultural, religious and other rights are respected. So, there is no real issue there, but you can always create an issue, even when one does not actually exist. And they are working hard to do that.

Now, what I want to point out particularly relevant to this scenario is that there are very few but some Muslim extremists in Bosnia and Herzegovina, who have participated in the conflict in Syria and they keep circulating back and forth. So, there is already a cadre of a couple of hundred people in that category with military experience and, I would imagine, also links to the same special services who are conduction the rebellion in Syria, using them over there. And they can use them here in Bosnia and Herzegovina as well.

So, there is a huge potential there for trouble, if the first two scenarios fail. And then, what is important to remember is that if they succeed to play on that ethnic oppression card, that will trigger the international community, which is present in Bosnia and Herzegovina through the office of the High Representative, there are still some peacekeeping troops here.

In February, when the trouble was going on here in Bosnia, the High Representative ominously said that if it spreads, he will consider calling reinforcements.

It didn't spread at that point, but if it is made to spread in the Republika Srpska, you can see the potential for the High Representative calling in the troops and reinforcements “to restore order”, but actually to overthrow the legal and democratically elected government, which at this point seems to have every chance of being reelected, and to impose puppets in their place.


Robles: Before all of this started in Ukraine, we talked very candidly about the actors behind all this. And I wrote several articles calling for the security services of Ukraine to pretty much clamp down. This was right when all that started. Which I think they should have done and all of this would have been prevented. In the light of that, I don't know how strong your security services are there.

Karganovic: This is a very important point. The Republika Srpska is not a sovereign country. Technically, theoretically, the sovereign country is Bosnia and Herzegovina, and it consists of two entities or two provinces, that is to say the Republika Srpska and the federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

So, the security services, the army – all the major institutions that a sovereign state could have are concentrated on the federal level. So, the Republika Srpska is much more defenseless than Ukraine was before the coup on February 22nd .

Robles: I see. This might be – I don't know if you are willing – it might be dangerous, it might not be, but can you name names here? Can you tell us of some of the groups, of the NGOs etc that are involved there in all of this?

Karganovic: Sure, I can. But that would be pretty meaningless to your listeners, because these are local groups that have no international significance.

Robles: They don't like to get on the record.

Karganovic: What is important is that they are financed by all the usual suspects.

Robles: For example?

Karganovic: The USAID and so on and so forth. Fine! Let me tell you a couple of them.

Robles: I just know from personal experience, these groups don't like publicity and they don't like to be called out. Even the USAID get really upset when people point out that they are involved in destroying countries and destabilizing governments.

Karganovic: So, let's upset them! I'm always happy to do that. One of them is called Transparency International.

Robles: Okay, again!

Karganovic: Another one is called the Helsinki Parliament of Citizens of Banja Luka. Then, there is Slobodna Republika (the Free Republic), BUKA, then, there is a GEA Center for Research and Studies. There is the Initiative of Youth for Human Rights. Then, there is the Srpska Times, an English language newspaper that is being published here since a couple of months ago. And I think that it is slated to play the role of the Syria Observatory in London to provide managed news reports from the field, once things get started, which will be in English and they can easily be picked up by the western news services and then distributed throughout the world as established facts.

Robles: What's that called again?

Karganovic: That's Srpska Times. You can google it and they have an Internet edition as well.

Robles: Yes, the Moscow Times, the Kiev Times, the Srpska Times. Got it!

Karganovic: Exactly! The same idea, they are not very original.

Robles: They never are.

Karganovic: Then, there is an Association of Veterans of the Republika Srpska. Then, there are a number of Internet portals and blogs, no point in mentioning them. They are absolutely meaningless to your listeners. Then, they already have a team of politically correct commentators and “experts”, who are ready to contribute their two cents' worth.

There is a lady by the name Tanja Topic. She is a know-it-all commentator that the Western news services regularly consult with on every issue. There is a lady economist. Her name is Svetlana Fenech.

You were listening to an interview with Stephan Karganovic. He is the President of the Srebrenica Historical Project. That was part 1 of a longer interview. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at

25 March, 01:21

NATO bombing of Yugoslavia: Peace vs. Interventionism and Imperialism

Former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia Živadin Jovanović

NATO bombing of Yugoslavia: Peace vs. Interventionism and Imperialism

The Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals, the Serbian Host Society, the Club of Generals and Admirals of Serbia and Veterans Association of Serbia (SUBNOR), in coordination with the World Peace Council, on 22 and 23 March 2014 held the International Conference "Global Peace vs. Global Interventionism and Imperialism". The Conference was held on the occasion of the 15th anniversary of NATO’s armed aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia). The motto of the Conference was "Not to Forget". The following is the closing statement of the forum which was submitted to the Voice of Russia by the Former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia Živadin Jovanović .

More than 500 scientists, experts and public persons from the areas of the international relations and security, from 50 countries of Europe and the world took part in the work of the Conference.

Participants of the Conference paid tribute to victims of the 78-day bombardment and laid wreaths on memorials. They honored all the victims of the illegal NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro and expressed their deep respect for former Yugoslav Popular Army, Federal Government, President Slobodan Milosevic and all heroic resistant fighters. We also must remember the victims of the NATO aggression subsequent to 1999, ongoing persecution of those political and military leaders who defended the country and who were sent to illegal Hague Tribunal including president Milosevic and others, who died there. Considering this Tribunal as illegal as a tool of NATO propaganda and political blackmailing, the participants demand its dissolution.

The debate unfolded in a constructive and tolerant dialogue regarding most important aspects and problems concerning the international peace and security. The presentations mainly focused on how to preserve global peace and find the ways to stop global interventionism, destabilization of certain countries and provoking the crises all over the world, which undermine the international legal and political world order and pushes the world to the edge of a major confrontation.

The participants analyzed the causes and consequences of NATO aggression in 1999, not only for Serbia and the Balkans but also its global consequences for peace and security in Europe and the world. Further to this, participants of the Conference have agreed as follows:

- NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia) of March 1999 was a war imposed against an independent, sovereign European state, in gross violation of the fundamental principles of the international law, most notably, the UN Charter and the Helsinki Final Act. This was the aggression committed without consent the UN Security Council. Hence it is a crime against peace and humanity, and the turning point towards the global interventionism, the practice of gross violation of the international legal order, and the negation of role of the UN. Subsequently it has been used as the model of interventionism in a number of other cases such as in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Mali and others.

- The leading Western powers, the USA, the UK, France, Germany, followed by the rest of NATO Members, 19 in all, devised a whole new arsenal of euphemisms in a bid to attribute any possible shred of legitimacy to this crime against peace and humanity. So-called "humanitarian intervention" was a cover for indiscriminate killings of civilians in Serbia including children, disabled and senior citizens, for the destruction of the economy, infrastructure, including schools, hospitals, passenger trains and houses. Use of missiles with depleted uranium has contaminated natural environment thus triggering grave and far-reaching consequences for the health of current and future generations.

- Since this is a crime against peace and humanity and a gross violation of the basic provisions of the international law, NATO Member States bear full legal responsibility for the aggression, including liability for the inflicted damage on the order of more than USD 100 billion, as well as responsibility for the use of weapons with depleted uranium and other illicit ordnances of mass destruction. Serbia has the right to initiate the proceedings before the competent international forums against NATO Alliance and all of its member states participating in the aggression, for the purpose of exercising the right to war damage compensation to Serbia and Montenegro as well as to individuals who suffered from aggression.

- Armed aggression has continued by employing other, non-military means. This was reflected in the violent change of power in the October 5, 2000 coup, which was initiated, funded and supported by NATO Member States; in all kind of blackmails and threats aimed at making Serbia denounce its state sovereignty in Kosovo and Metohija as its historical, cultural and civilization heartland; in ignoring UN Security Council Resolution 1244 guaranteeing sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia. Eventually, this led to unlawful and unconstitutional unilateral separation of Kosovo and Metohija in 2008 which was followed by formal recognition by most NATO member countries. The 1999 US NATO aggression grossly violated the UN Charter, 1970 Declaration on principles of International law, Helsinki Final Act, Paris Charter for a New Europe, five Security Council resolutions in 1998-2008, including resolutions 1244 and 1785.

- Immediately after the end of the aggression, a large USA military base has been established in Kosovo and Metohija, "Camp Bondsteel", the first and crucial ring in the chain of the new USA bases in Bulgaria, Romania, Poland, the Czech Republic, and other Easter European countries. NATO aggression against Yugoslavia actually accelerated the arms race and militarization of Europe and implementation of US/NATO/EU strategy of "Eastern expansion".

- Aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (FRY) launched in March 1999 has been serving as a blueprint for global USA/NATO/EU interventionism. In practice, this translates the USA, NATO and the West discretion to intervene militarily or otherwise, as they choose to suite their economic or strategic interests. Toppling legally elected governments and replacing them by hand-picked, pawn regimes, has become part and parcel of so called "democratization process".

- NATO has always operated as an aggressive military alliance, serving expansion and of imperialistic and neo-colonial objectives of the leading Western powers. The entire experience so far indicates that NATO strategy of global interventionism leaves behind a chaos in international relations, gigantic human casualties, divisions, and long-lasting misery and anguish in all countries and regions which have become immediate victims of such policy.

- NATO is responsible for devastation of the international legal order, for the degradation of the UN, instigating a new arms race, militarization of Europe, destabilization and inducing crises in individual countries and regions all over the world. Therefore, NATO strategy goes against the goals of peace and security, contravenes the democratic and civilization values, and violates the fundamental human rights. Such an Alliance is not a place for peaceful countries who see their interests in compliance of the international law and the UN system. This is why participants of the Conference pleaded for the dissolution of NATO as a relic of the Cold War, for disengaging in policy of free interventionism, and for the respect of freedom, independence and equality of all countries and nations.

- Exporting democracy and dictating cultural and civilization patterns has become a common approach of all Western powers, primarily of the USA, in their aspiring to govern the world pursuant to their own standards and in line with their self-serving interests. The imposition of such cultural and civilization patterns is an act of violence against reality that almost invariably results in conflicts, internal disorders, and deeper fragmentations and divisions; over time, this is prone to undermine the peace in the world, and presents a perfect excuse for external military interference. This model has created the so-called "colored revolutions" in Georgia, Venezuela and Ukraine and high jacked "Arab Spring revolution", which managed to devastate and turn the clock back for several decades, such as: Libya, Egypt and Syria.

- The strategy of interventionism involves several motives and purposes. These include the control over natural and developmental resources, reallocation of resources, and geopolitical reconfiguration of the world, against and at the expense of the predetermined key geopolitical adversary. This is how the USA/NATO/EU staged the crisis in Ukraine, whose end is still nowhere in sight. One can say that the Ukrainian crisis is the single most dangerous threat to the peace since the end of the Cold War. Instead of acknowledging Ukraine as a natural connection between Russia and Europe, the West chose to interfere, by artificially dislocating it from its natural cultural, civilization, and geopolitical environment and drawing it westwards. In doing so, the West paid no attention at all that the action could lead to internal conflict within Ukraine and that it would put at risk Russia’s vital interests. This dangerous geopolitical game played by America, NATO and the EU against Russia, as a proxy war at the expense of Ukraine under a "fine" but fake excuse of being waged for the benefit of the Ukrainians and their democratic social structure, has completely disregarded the effects of such policy against the interests of Ukraine, its people, the peace, and security in Europe and the world. Participants of the Conference advocated for a peaceful political solution free of interference and external pressures, that is, a solution that will guarantee its peoples will, and respect its role of a bridge between the East and the West. Such solution implies abandonment of the pernicious "Eastern expansion" which has already produced destabilization in Europe. Participants expressed satisfaction that the people of Crimea have used their right of self-determination which resulted in reunification with Russia.

- Participants of the Conference expressed their full support to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Serbia, including the resolution of the issue of Kosovo and Metohija in line with UN Security Council Resolution 1244. They supported the following requests: free, safe and dignified return of 250,000 expelled Serbs and other non-Albanians to their homes in Kosovo and Metohija; restitution of the usurped private, church, state and socially-owned property; reconstruction of 150 destroyed churches and monasteries of the Serbian Orthodox Church, of hundreds of desecrated and obliterated Serbian graveyards and thousands of burnt Serbian homes; conducting effective investigation of trafficking in human organs; determining the fate of all abducted and missing Serbs from Kosovo and Metohija; and identifying and bringing to justice the perpetrators of all other crimes committed against the Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija for which, so far, nobody has been found responsible, let alone convicted.

- Participants of the Conference welcomed worthy initiative of the UN General Assembly which proclaimed 2014 to be the international year of solidarity with the people of Palestine. Finding that this initiative deserves strong support of the peaceful forces in the world, the Conference sent requests for an immediate withdrawal of Israeli occupation forces from all Palestinian territories, for the establishment of independent state of Palestine, within the borders of July 1967 with East Jerusalem as its capital, for the right for the return for the Palestine refugees, based on UN Resolution 194 and the release of all Palestinian prisoners from jail. Fulfillment of these requests is of vital interest for the Palestinian people and for the introduction of a just and durable peace in the Middle East.

- Participants have expressed solidarity with peoples of Latin America in their endeavors to safeguard freedom, independence and sovereignty from aggressive imperial USA strategy. They demanding closing of Guantanamo base and abolishing blockade against Cuba, as well as the release of the five Cuban political prisoners from American jails.

- By dismissing the policies and actions that endanger the peace and security, participants of the Conference denounced plans and actions aimed at destabilizing the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela. Coordinated violent actions in Caracas and other parts of Venezuela are parts of the strategy employed by the local oligarchs and external actors, intended to disable the functioning of the legitimately elected government and impose political changes of their choice but against the interests of the Venezuelan people, by sabotage, violent provocations and blackmails. In condemning those attempts, participants of the Conference expressed their solidarity with the Venezuelan people and the support for its courageous efforts to preserve the freedom, pride, and sovereignty of Venezuela, and to decide their own future.

- Participants have expressed concern over systematic organized revision of European history of the 20th century, particularly revision of outcome of the First and the Second World War. This may serve imperialist objectives for redrawing international borders causing unforeseen consequences. We condemn the western promoted rehabilitation of fascism and attempts to equate communism with Nazism.

- Participants of the Conference dedicated significant attention to the global economic capitalist crisis which has led not only to an unprecedented social stratification and impoverishment of the global population, but also to an artificially imposed debt crises in a number of formerly economically very prosperous countries, such as Greece, Spain, Portugal, Italy and Cyprus. The global crisis emerged predominantly in countries which had declared themselves to be the centers of global civilization and the most advanced social order, one that will see no need for serous social conflicts and clashes. The key indicators of this crisis include mass-scale unemployment, especially within the youth, high indebtedness of countries, decline in economic activities, etc. We support the genuine popular protests against the above.

- It is obvious that on Europe and the majority of the world were imposed the neo-liberal cultural, political and economical pattern, which does not function. In the search for the way out of this universal deadlock, the most powerful countries are trying to shift the burden of the crisis onto other countries and nations, ones they pejoratively call "the global periphery", while in the meantime struggling to win the battle for the global prestige, and in the process stepping down onto the old civilizations and forcibly toppling the unsympathetic ruling regimes. All the above only add to the conflicting feature of the international arena, and makes it exceptionally prone to outbreaks of all types of conflicts, from internal and regional, to the global ones.

- Participants at the Conference noted with concern that there are still US forward-based infrastructures in Europe like missile defense, tactical nuclear weapons and conventional forces, that destabilize the regional and the global atmosphere.

- The global economic crisis cannot be resolved by the printing of ever new trillions of dollars and the makeshift mends of the existing system. This can be done by abandoning the neo-liberal concept and by developing a new, humane society of social justice, equality and the better life for all people and nations in the planet. The focus of the new system of social relations must be on people and their economic, social, cultural, and humanitarian needs, instead of the profits and self-serving interests of the so-called economical and political elites.

- A part this International Conference was the Youth Forum, which concluded that the global crisis, and globalization and interventionism primarily threaten the rights and perspectives of the young generations. In numerous countries, in Europe and the world, young people below 30 make up some 60% of the total number of unemployed. The youth requests urgent changes in the social relations and internationally, which will ensure active engagement of the young people into economic, political and societal trends, their assuming responsibility for their own future, at the national and international levels. The youth advocates the socially just society and universal human rights, such as the right to employment, free education, social security and health care. Young people advocate the democratization of international relations, the respect for the international law, and denounce the arms race, militarization and neocolonialism.

- Only a world free of dominance of imperialism and militarism will stand a chance to avoid a war cataclysm. The global economic crises and its consequences on popular strata underline the necessity to overcome the system which causes exploitation, wars and the misery. It is absolutely unacceptable and contrary to the international law to have the regional center of power, such as NATO and the European Union be established as a substitute to the United Nations Security Council.

- The only true international community is the United Nations, rather than any self-proclaimed members of any regional groups. We must struggle to ensure the universal character of the international law and to have it equally oblige big and small countries, developed and developing ones. We have to fight even more resolutely to preserve the civilization heritage such as the freedom, ethics and dignity, while determinedly rejecting all surrogates of the corporative capitalism and imperialism, planted by the military-industrial and finance capital.

Participants of the Conference emphasized that the accomplishment of these objectives required active engagement in mobilizing all peace-loving stakeholders, in order to counter and reject any military and conquest ambitions against any given country regardless of its leaders. In parallel, it is necessary to mobilize all forces in developing democratic international relations, based on the principles of the United Nations Charter, the provisions of the international law, and the strict observance of the inviolability and independence of all states and their territorial integrity, and the principle of non-interference in the internal affairs. Such a world would be measured by a human scale, and this grand utopia should be believed in, and persistently fighting for, and this is the key message from the Conference.

Participant in the Conference expressed sincere gratitude to the Serbian side for the excellent performance of the International Conference and for hospitality extended to all participants.

20 March, 00:49

Sanctions Against Russia: Mission Impossible – Foreign Minister Zivadin Jovanovic

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Historically Crimea has always been a part of Russia and the referendum and the vote of the people for reunification with the motherland in fact corrects a 20 year old error when Crimea was given to Ukraine like a sack of potatoes. The reaction by the West and its double standards proves that it is unprincipled and only concerned with its own interests. According to Živadin Jovanović the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia the US/NATO and the West are behaving like they are representatives of God Almighty and that the only right is that proclaimed and certified in Washington or Brussels. US/NATO and the West have no problem dangerously allying themselves with mujahidins, Al-Qaeda, UÇK (KLA) terrorists or neo-nazis, as long as they can be exploited.

This is John Robles, I'm speaking with Živadin Jovanović. He is the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. This is part one of the longer interview.

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Robles: Hello Sir! How are you this is evening?

Jovanović: Fine John. How are you?

Robles: I’m very well. Can you tell us your opinion on the situation in Crimea, it has now become part of the Russian Federation, and the correlations you see with what happened in Kosovo, in Serbia,in Yugoslavia, in particular with the hypocrisy of the West?

Jovanović: Yes, we understand that Crimea had been part and parcel of Russia. And the referendum and the vote of the people now has opted for reunification with the motherland. So the West’s obviously reacts to suit its own interests and does not respect any principles. We are faced with another example of “double standard policy” of the West.

When the Kosovo and Metohija separatists, the Albanian separatists, led by a terrorist organization, proclaimed the separation and independence of Kosovo and Metohija, the West immediately supported this decision and immediately recognized the independence of Kosovo and Metohija claiming that it was a unique case and that the Albanian national minority in Kosovo and Metohija had legitimate reasons and a legitimate right to secede from Serbia.

When we said that it will be a precedent and it may backfire in Europe and elsewhere in the world, they said: “Oh, no, it is a unique case.”

When President Putin in Munich in 2007 said that it is not a unique case, of course, it was not a unique case.

From the very beginning we claimed that it was a precedent and it will backfire on the stability and the situation in Europe, because we know that there are many separatist movements in almost every corner of Europe, not to speak about Africa, Asia, Latin America and so on.

It has really become quite clear that the Western powers have one universal criterion, that is that any event, any claim should suit to their interests. Anything that suits to their interests is proclaimed to be in accordance with international law, in accordance with democratic principles, in accordance with human rights and so on.

When they interfered in the internal affairs of Yugoslavia in 1998, in 1999 and in the year of 2000 and so on, they said: “Well, sovereignty and territorial integrity have lost their classic meanings. Now, with the integration processes in Europe and elsewhere, borders do not have been very essential meaning.”

So, in those years they pumped in hundreds of millions of dollars on the so-called process of democratization in Yugoslavia. Actually, this was financing the opposition in Yugoslavia and trying to bring the so-called democratic opposition of Serbia to power.

They could not do it so simply, they actually had to intervene militarily. And they practically have stolen Kosovo and Metohija from Serbia and later on they have installed the democratic opposition in Belgrade and forces which would respect the western interests.

And ever since then, up to now the authority in Belgrade is characterized as being pro-Western. But nobody really says: ”How about that this authority be pro-Serbian?”

They are not characterized as pro-Serbian, but pro-western. And they keep continuity in always helping structures which will take western interests as national interests.

In Ukraine we saw something similar. They pumped in, as I understand, about $5.5 billion. What for? For the “democratization” of Ukraine. And obviously, they were not accepting a pro-Ukrainian government, they have always tried to install, to bring into power the pro-western government in Ukraine.

And actually, by doing this they have destabilized one of the largest European countries. Now, they act like they are being surprised about the crop that they have from the seeds, that they seeded in Ukraine.

Well, in 1999 we had a precedent, the blueprint which was later on followed in overthrowing the legitimate governments in many other countries which conducted independent policies. And all this NATO aggression in 1999 against Serbia and Montenegro, against the then Yugoslavia had been a turning point towards the globalization of interventionism and a turning point of expansion towards the East.

They have pursued this policy of expansion regardless of the interests of Russia and so on. They did not respect any agreement. They pretend that the privilege of the West is even to not recognize what they sign or what they agree upon.

They have adopted the UN Security Council resolution 1244 about Kosovo and Metohija, about sovereignty and territorial integrity of Yugoslavia. But ever since then they said: “Well, this was not really what we meant. This was only for the moment.”

And when you react: “How about the decisions, how about the agreements?

They say: “The privilege of the West is not to respect even the signed agreements.”

And we see the consequences of such a policy, of taking into consideration only their selfish interests and disregarding the interests of the others.

We see, for instance in Kosovo and Metohija, that they had an alliance with the clear-cut terrorists – the UÇK organization (Kosovo Liberation Army). They were in alliance conducting military aggression against Yugoslavia in 1999. So, they seem to have double standards in making the difference who are the terrorists and who are not.

Al Qaeda once is a terrorist organization, in other instances, like in Syria, it is a lie. The UÇK until 1998 was a terrorist organization and in 1999 it was proclaimed to be a liberation organization. The only criterion is whether some force, some factors, serves their interests or not.

This is a really very dangerous situation. I think that with such a practice of taking into consideration only their own interests, the West is actually questioning the future of peace and stability in Europe. With that strategy and that policy Europe is not a stable continent any longer.

I think that such a policy of expansion, of disregard of the other countries’ and other nations’ interests is a real danger for the peace and stability in Europe.


Robles: Now, we care about peace and stability, but the US doesn’t. They don’t see the people in the countries that they invade and take over as being human or being important. They didn’t care about the Syrian people, they don’t care about the Ukrainian people, they don’t care about the Crimean people, because it was 97% of the Crimean people who voted to rejoin with Russia.

I’d like you to comment, if you could: they are supporting Al Qaeda, they are supporting the Albanian terrorists and the KLA, they were supporting even the Irish Republican Armies. Now we have them supporting neo-nazi groups who are calling for the death of all Russians, blacks and Jews.

Jovanović: Yes, this is another proof of the destructive policy of NATO and the leading western powers. They are not misguided, they must know who the neo-nazis are, who the fascists are. And even knowing all that they are taking them as allies, as helpers.

So, once again, whatever and whoever suits their interests, it is an ally. They have this almost proverb that their friends are always right. And their friends can be mujahidins, Al-Qaeda, UÇK terrorists or neo-nazis, neo-fascist forces and organizations. If at one moment such forces can be abused, can be exploited, they don’t care.

They just proclaim them to be the forces of democracy, of progress or something. But there is a real question of what remains of “civilization values”, what about the minimum of morality in politics, the minimum of principled position, the minimum of respect of universal principles and universal criteria.

They cannot pass through this stage without suffering, without endangering their own interests. I can only hope that they will show in practice the respect for some democratic values, for some civilization values.

They are behaving like they are being the earth representatives of the Almighty God. And the only right and good, and democratic, and human is only what is proclaimed and certified in Washington or Brussels. This is a really dangerous policy because it reminds of certain strategies from the past, which brought tragedy to civilization.

Whether they are capable to understand the dangers of their own policy or not, it is questionable. But we, the rest should read well that this is kind a strategy of dictatorship in the world relations.

Robles: Regarding now all these calls for sanctions and the way they are controlling the media. They are talking about excluding the Russian Federation from the G8, they are talking about the economic sanctions, which are really going to hurt the West. What is your opinion on this policy of sanctions, which the US has been using since 1901, at least?

Jovanović: We have suffered a lot from the international sanctions, first, in May 1992, when the UN Security Council enacted the sanctions against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. These sanctions were lifted in 1995 after the Dayton Peace Agreement.

But even then the US continued to apply the so-called outer wall of sanctions against Yugoslavia. They prevented Yugoslavia from resuming membership rights in the UN, in the OSCE and in some of the European and international forums.

These sanctions actually are aimed at ordinary people. Those who suffer from such generalized sanctions are the ordinary citizens of any country. That’s why in principle I am strongly against sanctions.

And as far as threatening Russia with sanctions, I think these threats have no base and no perspective. Russia is too big, too powerful and too vast country. It is the largest country in the world. It is almost “mission impossible” to apply sanctions against Russia.

But even if they try to apply any kind of sanctions, this will certainly backfire and hurt the interests of those who initiate the sanctions.

You were listening to part 1 of an interview with Živadin Jovanović.

5 April, 09:03

US/NATO Imperialism a Threat to Civilization Yugoslav FM Živadin Jovanović

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Today Europe is living with the consequences of unprecedented US/NATO aggression against the former Yugoslavia 15 years ago. The invasion and destruction of Yugoslavia, the first war in Europe since WWII, resolved nothing in the Balkans but created many new problems. Most importantly it was precedent setting event and a blueprint for the following US/NATO aggressive wars in Afghanistan, Libya, Iraq, Mali and other locations which have been the victims of US/NATO led endless war and aggression. These crimes against humanity have not been only military in nature but also clandestine, such as what we are seeing in Ukraine, Syria and Venezuela today. The West has had only objective: the domination of the world by the US/NATO and its surrogates.


This is John Robles, I'm speaking with ŽivadinJovanović. He is the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. This is part two of a longer interview. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at

Robles: Can I ask you now two questions? What is your opinion on the actions of the Russian government and in particular the Russian president Vladimir Putin? Do you think this historic moment is a turning point in the state of geopolitics in the world today?

Jovanović: Yes, indeed I believe so. If 1999 NATO/US led aggression against Yugoslavia was a turning point toward globalization of interventionism, toward militarization of European and international relations. It was a turning point in strategy of global domination of the West, then I think Ukrainian case and the Crimean referendum to reunite with Russia is another kind of turning point.

This I consider to be turning point towards multi-polar world relations, toward resisting the policy of domination of the West. It is to my belief a historically important turning point opening the hope for democratization of world relations opening the space for real respect of universal principals of international law and universal principal of international relations.

I would believe that this is a turning point toward a higher respect of universal organizations such as United Nations and toward respecting of the basic principles of UN Charter. And I think it is turning point toward abandoning the policy of double standards and disregard of the legitimate interests of other countries.

It is simply the beginning I think for the relieving Europe and the world of the threats of domination from one side only.

Robles: You mentioned sanctions, the rights of other countries, a few minutes ago you mentioned Al Qaeda. They were created by the US, the US is using them as their non-state army whenever they need them as their mercenary force. Al Qaeda is listed and they are sanctioned by the UN as being a terrorist organization. What is your opinion on other countries now sanctioning the US, for example: for Guantanamo, for aggressive war, for meddling into the affairs of Ukraine, for meddling into the affairs of Serbia, for redesigning the borders in Europe after WWII? I mean all of those things are illegal. What about sanctions on the US? Do you think there will be some time when countries might be calling for sanctions?

Jovanović: It is obvious that the US disrespects international law, that they disrespect international principles of international organizations. They take all those like tools to suit the interests of the US. The US is a big power but it is disregarding the interests of Europe, disregarding the interests of Russia and other big and responsible countries.

I think for the beginning we should discourage and put some limitations to expansionist policy and disregard of other countries’ interests on the part of the US.

It would be necessary to unite the countries and nations struggling for democratization of international relations, struggling against interventionism and against expansionist imperialist policy of NATO, EU, and the US. And certainly I think this should be requiring serious efforts on the part of wide international community, especially the countries like Russia, China, India, like countries of BRICS and so on.

I think Russia should do well to call upon BRICS countries and Shanghai Association countries to consider new situation brought about by expansionist policy of the US, NATO and EU. This is touching the interests of Russia right now, but from a principled point of view it is a policy questioning interests of the world community, it is the question whether we should enter an era of democratic international relations or we should be silent and accept a policy of expansion and a policy of domination.

Robles: Last two questions and then we are going to have to finish up. Can you give us your forecast on where you see the situation in Ukraine going? What do you think is going to happen withUkraine? Can you tell us about, you have a very important conference coming up on March, 24th, it is the Fifteenth Year Anniversary of the initial bombing of Yugoslavia that had begun I think most of this lawlessness and aggressive war? Tell us, please, about the conference that is coming up.

Jovanović: We all hope that a political solution will be found for the crisis in Ukraine. To have political solution I think NATO should abandon idea of forcing Ukraine to become a member of NATO. Ukraine should be treated as a country to make its own decisions and to be let alone from the Western interference, from the Western pressures and so on.

I believe that it is primarily in the interests of Europe including the EU to find out a modus vivendi with Russia and to accept substantial dialogue between Brussels and Moscow.

It is my strong belief that long term interests of Europe require stability of Brussels/Moscow relationship and it really requires more independent and pro-independent position and behavior of Europe. In this regard I would underline importance of dialogue between Moscow and Berlin which is certainly, as far as Germany is concerned, a leading EU country. And no doubt that among all European countries Germany has the greatest interest for stable relations with Russia. I think that it is possible.

Otherwise if Germany and EU pursue the policy of acting on behalf of the US interests I think it will be very bad not only for Ukraine but for Europe in general. And it would further lead to a profound long term European crisis.

I think there should be a lot of wisdom applied to avoid disintegration of Ukraine. It is one of perspectives, but that could be, I think, avoided by rational and principled policy without any threats or blackmails addressed to Moscow.

Moscow I don’t believe will bound to blackmailing from the West. It is certainly another type of power now than in 1999. Now about Ukraine, I would be a realist, it is very serious, it cannot be predicted with all certainty but certainly there is a possibility to find a political solution in the interests of stability of European continent. Nobody needs further destabilization and creation of situation of further arms race or disturbing development and profounding the socioeconomic crisis which is reigning in major parts of Europe.

As far as our conference is concerned, we have already mentioned, these days exactly from 21st to 25th of March the Belgrade Forum with a number of other independent nonpartisan associations organizes a big international gathering in Belgrade under the theme: ‘Global Peace Instead of Global Confrontation and Global Imperialism’. And it is devoted to Fifteenth Anniversary of NATO aggression, it is in memory of thousands of our citizens who were killed, in memory of hundreds of thousands of refugees and displaced persons from Kosovo and from other parts of former Yugoslavia.

We shall try that this event should not be only of memorial character, we should try to answer from now on what should be the task of peace loving forces in Europe and in the world? In this regard I think we all first of all should struggle for the truth about Yugoslav crisis, struggle further for the true presentation of NATO aggression in 1999 which was the first European war after the WWII. We should try to spread the notion and information that this was the war not against Yugoslavia or Serbia and Montenegro only, it was really the war against Europe and strangely enough the war against Europe participated by Europe.

It was also one turning point when Europe was recognizing not to have its own strategy and independence. I think there were European countries which joined the US not thinking any further what will be further development, what will be further consequences. There were other countries which entered the war against Yugoslavia for their revanchist aims, revanchist philosophy and there were simply smaller countries which didn’t have any kind of independence, which only had to listen what was the call from the US and to obey.

Anyway today we can see what kind of problems this NATO aggression 15 years ago has brought to Europe. Nothing has been resolved in the Balkans but many problems have been opened in Europe and in the world. A precedent was made, a blueprint for NATO interventions in Afghanistan, in Iraq, in Libya, in Mali, and everywhere else.

And it is not really only to speak about military interventions because although they are the most tragic event but it is also to speak about interventions of clandestine nature, interventions like in Syria, like in Venezuela now, like in Ukraine now and so on.

And we can really see that all those interventions had one objective and still have one objective – domination of leading Western powers, first of all of the US in the world. And this is the danger really because those who should be victims of domination do not accept such a position, they are ready to fight.

And from this fact that the West doesn’t change colonial attitudes, imperial attitudes as strategy and the rest of the world not accepting to be victim of such an imperial policy I think this may lead to either confrontation and that is why all the forces of peace should join hands and stop this imperial policy endangering nowadays civilization.

We will have friends from all over the world, from about 60 countries in Europe and from other continents will be our guests and will be speakers at the conference. We will have a difficulty to accommodate all the people who will voice in favor of peace, who will support multi-polarization and democratization of the world relations.

11 April, 00:56

President Putin is a Hope for the Oppressed Yugoslav FM Zivadin Jovanovic

President Putin is a hope for the oppressed - FM Zivadin Jovanovic

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For the oppressed people of the world subjected to exploitation and the forces of imperial powers Russian President Vladimir Putin has become a real hope for a return of multi-polarity and the mutual respect of all nations. Decades of US imperial attempts at achieving global hegemony by force, illegal methods and endless aggressive war have had the reverse effect that the US global imperialists had hoped for. The main weapon for the US in its strategy was the use of aggressive war and regime change. 

In Yugoslavia the US/NATO designed a blueprint to disguise aggressive war as humanitarian intervention and much of the world was fooled into believing it. Since then the US/NATO have destroyed countries with impunity. In the Voice of Russia's interview with the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia Živadin Jovanović he is asked his opinion of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

This is John Robles, I'm speaking with Živadin Jovanović. This is John Robles, I'm speaking with ŽivadinJovanović. He is the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. This is part three of a longer interview. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at

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Robles: Last comment if you could, sir, on Russian president Vladimir Putin. He, I think, is now what I would say a hope for many people all over the world who have been repressed, oppressed and subjected to Western colonialism, regime change operations etc. And many people in the world see him as someone who can bring about return to rule of law, to respect for international conventions, to respect for the Geneva Conventions, the United Nations and the real international community. If you could what is your opinion on Russian president Vladimir Putin?

Jovanović: A couple of years ago I was asked by your colleagues in Belgrade: "Why does the Serbian public like Putin so much?"

And I said: "Probably, because of the feeling that Serbia although it is a small country would like to have its own Putin".

Putin has become a symbol of dignity of nation, a symbol of a leader who doesn’t aim, in politics, from today to tomorrow, symbol of a politician of long term strategy and a long term perspective for Russia, for Europe and for the world.

And I think that he is widely respected what I can surely witness he is highly respected all over Serbia and in the region and exactly as a hope for more justice and more peace, stability, for hope for respect of law and basic conventions as you said, respect for the United Nations.

Therefore I think he first of all needs and I believe he enjoys full the support of Russia’s population and of countries surrounding Russia bit I think that his role should also be to encourage international bodies such as the Unied Nations, such as the OSCE and international forums to join forces for just world relations.

Russia is certainly a big power, she is already a superpower. Putin is certainly a leader opening the hopes not only the Russian population but of many oppressed peoples and countries all over the world that there is need to initiate movement and movement of all constructive and peace loving forces in the world and especially international bodies.

So that the other even formally accept this struggle for peace, dignity, equality and partnership.

Robles: Thank you very much, sir.

Jovanović: Thank you for inviting me although I believe there are many people who will speak their minds even with a greater wisdom than myself.

Robles: Thank you, sir. I really appreciate it.

Jovanović: Ok, bye bye.

Robles: Ok, thank you, sir, thank you sir. Good luck, good night.

You were listening to part 3 of an interview with ŽivadinJovanovic, the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia. He is also the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at Thanks for listening and we wish you the best.



21 February, 23:38

NATO Moving East, Building 'Roman Empire' in Europe

Yugoslav FM Živadin Jovanović (Part 1)

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NATO’s first act of illegal "humanitarian" aggressive war called "Operation Deliberate Force" in 1995 against the Republic Srpska which it got away with and emboldened it to later carry out "Operation Allied Force", the merciless brutal air campaign against civilian targets in the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. The fact that NATO was allowed to get away with these acts of aggressive war and that the US/NATO architects were allowed to carry out such scenarios emboldened the "alliance" even further and has led to the recent global expansion by NATO and the scores of "regime change" and "resource wars" presented as "humanitarian interventions". The scenario is almost identical every time and is currently being played out in Ukraine. On the 15 year anniversary of the aggression on Yugoslavia, in an exclusive interview, the Voice of Russia spoke to the last Foreign Minister of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Živadin Jovanović.

This is John Robles, I’m speaking with Živadin Jovanović. He is the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. This is part 1 of a longer interview. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at


Robles: Hello Sir! How are you this evening?

Jovanović: Fine, John. I’m glad to be able to talk for the Voice of Russia.

Robles: Thank you! And it is a pleasure for me to speaking with you. I’ve read a lot of your work. Given your background as the Foreign Minister of the former Yugoslavia, you were the Foreign Minister during the upheavals and the foreign-initiated revolutions that destroyed the country, can you tell us a little bit about the histories, maybe, something we don’t know about and give us your views on what is happening now in Ukraine and in Bosnia etc?

Jovanović: Well, I would like to recall that the Dayton Peace Agreement about peace in Bosnia and Herzegovina was reached in 1995 and the key figure in reaching the peace in Bosnia was Slobodan Milosevic, at the time President of the Republic of Serbia and later on the President of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

I would like to say that his role was widely recognized, at that time, as a peace-maker in the Balkans. And indeed, no one of the other leaders of the former Yugoslav Republics did contribute to reaching peace in the civil war in Bosnia and Herzegovina, as Slobodan Milosevic did. This was repeatedly stated at the Paris Conference which formally marks the signing of the peace agreement and he was hailed by the presidents of the US, of France and many other countries.

But we know now that in Dayton Americans wanted also to discuss the problem of the Serbian southern province of Kosovo and Metohija. And they wanted to include this into the Dayton Negotiations agenda. Slobodan Milosevic and the Yugoslav delegation decisively refused this, even saying that if the Americans want to discuss the internal issue of Yugoslavia, of Serbia, at an international forum, they would not take part in such an exercise.

So, faced with this refusal of Slobodan Milosevic, Americans, first of all, Richard Holbrook (the then State Secretary) and the other officials of the US accepted to discuss only how to reach the peace in Bosnia and Herzegovina. And the peace was really reached in Dayton.

But later on they needed Milosevic in the process of implementing the Dayton peace agreement. Many conferences, many meetings were held all over Europe: in Geneva, in Rome, in Berlin and various other capitals and in Moscow too, as to how secure the implementation of the Dayton Peace Agreement.

All this time Yugoslavia and President Milosevic were needed as a key peace factor. Without Yugoslavia and President Milosevic nobody could imagine reaching the implementation of the Dayton Peace Agreement. But this was also a period when Yugoslavia was freed from UN sanctions, which were based on accusations that Yugoslavia was committing aggression in the Bosnian civil war.

The sanctions were adopted at the Security Council in May 1992 and they lasted until 1995 when the Dayton Peace Agreement was reached. They were afterwards abolished, first suspended and then, finally, abolished. But the USA did not abolish its own sanctions, the so-called "outer wall" of sanctions. That means that the Americans did not allow Yugoslavia to renew its membership in OSCE, in the UN, position in the World Bank, in IMF and many other international organizations.

They kept these tools for the reason that they had other plans. And they didn’t actually forget that Milosevic was not willing to allow treatment of the internal issue of Kosovo and Metohija on the international scene.

So, after the stability in Bosnia and Herzegovina was settled, after Milosevic was not needed any longer to cooperate on Bosnia and Herzegovina, they opened the problem of Kosovo and Metohija.

Well, they not only opened, but they were financing, training and organizing terrorist organization: the so-called KLA. It was not actually only the US who did it, but the American European allies, like Germany, like Great Britain and some other countries were very cooperative in supporting separatist movements and the terrorist organization of KLA in Kosovo and Metohija.

So, they were bringing up this internal problem of Serbia in various international forums and they were actually provoking clashes on the territory of Serbia. Many policemen, many teachers, many soldiers and many Serbian public workers were killed in 1997-1998. And so in 1998 the government did not have any other possibility than to confront the rising terrorism in Kosovo and Metohija.

At that time the US started to initiate negotiations with Milosevic. Richard Holbrook was leading negotiations, tere were rounds and rounds of negotiations. All the time it was clearly seen that Americans are siding and propping up separatism in Kosovo and Metohija, and squeezing Serbia, squeezing Milosevic to accept various conditions that in principle were not acceptable.

So, in June 1998 the American administration actually recognized the terrorist organization called KLA as a "liberation" organization. And we have a witness in British Colonel John Crosland, who was the British military attaché in Belgrade who had (gave) a written a testimony to the Hague Tribunal stating among other things that in June 1998 President Clinton, Richard Holbrook and Madeline Albright decided to overthrow Milosevic and they considered that the KLA (terrorist organization KLA) in Kosovo could be a "tool" in achieving this objective.

John Crosland said: "From that moment onwards it was absolutely irrelevant what we thought about KLA, whether it was a terrorist or a liberation organization, because "the center of power" decided it was an ally."

This organization will later on, when there was a military aggression of NATO against Yugoslavia in March 1999, it turned to be a ground force of NATO. NATO was in the air and KLA was on the ground.

So, we actually see a certain period of preparation of this aggression. Preparations were going on to stigmatize the Government of Yugoslavia with Milosevic as not cooperating, not predictable and authoritarian. And the whole network of western propaganda, of NATO propaganda was repeating what was the position of the State Department and of the Foreign Office in London. The stigmatization was the first stage of preparing the European and international public for what was to follow later.

Then, they staged the so-called massacre of Albanian civilians in Račak, in Kosovo and Metohija. In Račak there was a security action of the security forces of Yugoslavia against units of KLA. And it was announced to the OSCE and to the so-called "international community" that there will be a security operation against the terrorist organization.

And everybody in place, in Kosovo and Metohija and from the international community were informed. And some of them really did observe, some of them even filmed the operation. It was a legitimate operation of the government forces against terrorism.

But nevertheless, the American Ambassador Walker who was in charge of the OSCE mission in Kosovo and Metohija proclaimed: "It was a massacre of civilians!"

This was like a triggering moment for NATO to take action. And this is a detail which was to be repeated in many ways later on.

Before that we had, in Bosnia, the so-called Markale incident when civilians queuing in front of a bakery were bombed and killed and accusations were immediately directed at the Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina, while today we have even the military from the former Muslim side and Izetbegović’s side, and Russian experts and other experts from the UN claiming that there was no proof of the Serbian side being involved in that. Everybody says that Muslims had provoked this massacre themselves in order to attribute it to the Serbian "enemy".

We have in Syria, you know, about the Sarin gas and so on.

Robles: If we could, before we get too far along here, because I have a lot of questions, because this is the exact same thing that they’ve done in Libya, in Syria, in Ukraine, now in Bosnia they are trying to do it again, in Egypt... Every country they want to overthrow they do the same thing. They’ll support any terrorist. In Ukraine they are supporting neo-Nazis. It doesn’t matter, as long as they can overthrow the government. In the Middle East they are supporting Al-Qaeda. In Libya, in Syria it is Al-Qaeda terrorists. I agree with you 100%. I’d like to ask you some questions. If you could, give me some more details about… you were the Foreign Minister, you knew what was going on: why and when exactly did they start talking about Kosovo? That appears to be their initial goal – Kosovo – from the beginning.

Jovanović: Exactly!

Robles: Why is that?

Jovanović: Well, I always claimed from the very beginning, it was not for regional or local objectives. It was a matter of geopolitical objectives of the US and of the leading NATO countries.

Recently at one conference in Germany I was asked: "What were the geopolitical reasons for the aggression of NATO on Kosovo?"

I said: "Well it is first of all the realization of the policy of expansion of NATO towards the east. The objective was to make a base for further military expansion towards the Russian borders."

I was even blunt to say that they want to get closer to the resources of Siberia, to the resources of the Middle East, to the Caspian Basin and so on and so forth.

And the people who asked me the question were quite silent after that, they didn’t have any other comments. I think everybody realized that we completely understand the essence of the American strategy.

The American strategy has been tabled in April 2002 at the NATO summit in Bratislava. We have a written document of the German politician Willy Wimmer, who was present at that NATO summit, in the form of his report to the then Chancellor Gerhard Schröder. Willy Wimmer among other things in his report quotes that the American strategist informed the NATO allies in Bratislava in April 2000 that the NATO strategy is to establish a similar situation in Europe as it was in times when the Roman Empire was at the peak of its might.

So, they said from the Baltic to Anatolia in Turkey there should be the same situation as in the era of the Roman Empire. And they quoted some concrete examples. They said Poland should be surrounded by friendly countries. Bulgaria and Romania should be a bridge towards Asia. And Serbia should be permanently kept out of European development.

So, we see that Kosovo was a starting point of a military expansion towards the East. In 1999, exactly 15 years ago the Americans established their military base Bondsteel, which by many political analysts is considered to be the largest American military base in the world outside of the American territory.

Robles: Yet it is!

Jovanović: And if we presume that it is the largest or one of the largest, the question is why it should be based in Kosovo, when Kosovo and Serbia are so small, so tiny places. And there is no explanation from a regional point of view.

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26 February, 03:58

NATO Expansion New ‘Drang Nach Osten’ Doctrine Yugoslav FM Živadin Jovanović (Part 2)

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After NATO military aggression against the former Fedral Republic of Yugoslavia ended in 1999 and after the establishment of the US/NATO Camp Bondsteel military base, American military bases began sprouting up all over Eastern Europe like mushrooms after a drenching rain. 

On the 15 year anniversary of the NATO bombing of Yugoslavia in an interview with the Voice of Russia Živadin Jovanović, the former and last Foreign Minister of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals stated that all of these bases are directed against Russia and Eurasia.


All of the NATO infrastructure and military elements have nothing to do with democracy or with some struggle against organized international crime. All of the bases, warships, aircraft, nuclear missiles and anti-ballistic missile systems in Germany, Poland, Romania, Spain and elsewhere are all part of a new “Drang Nach Osten Doctrine” (the German Imperial and nazi [sic] “Drive to the East”). Mr. Jovanović believes this push to the East warrants very serious attention and is a very dangerous development.

This is John Robles, I’m speaking with Živadin Jovanović. He is the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. This is part 2 of a longer interview. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at

Jovanović: In June, 1999, after NATO aggression was ended, then I can recall that soon after that there was a reconstruction and construction of four new American military bases in Bulgaria, and after that four new American bases in Romania. And how many they have in Czech or Slovak Republic, in Poland, in Baltic Republics and so on, it is not really so important, but what is important that after military aggression on Yugoslavia in 1999 and after establishment of the Bondsteel military base, American military bases in eastern part of the continent were mushrooming like after rain.

And now I would like to ask question for your listeners: how to explain the fact that in Europe today there are much more foreign military bases than at the time of the peak of Cold War era? Why they are needed? Is democracy in danger? Who is endangering democracy? Or what are the reasons? Can we believe that these bases are to fight terrorism, or what? It is really what is never recognized.

These bases to my sincere belief are directed against Russia, against Eurasia. And they have nothing to do with democracy, with struggle against organized international crime, with struggling against cyber dangers or anything else. We should be extremely naive to believe that these anti-ballistic systems in Poland, in Romania and elsewhere, in Spain, in Germany, that they are to relieve Europe of the dangers from Iran or from North Korea and so on and so forth.

Robles: Those are all lies. It is just part of the empire, it is part of their military force in order to increase and continue and expand their empire, and surround Russia of course, which they’ve continued to see as a threat even since the Cold War finished. NATO is the foreign military wing of their empire, they are trying to do and they are actually doing what Nazi Germany did: they are taking over the entire world through NATO.

Jovanović: I would only recall that this is new edition of a Drang nach Osten, and it really deserves high attention and very serious approaches. How to discourage, how to stop this extremely dangerous development?

I would like to add to this consideration another element, this is element of the world economic and financial crisis which seem not to be ending in foreseeable future. And I see that this global interventionism which is propped up by United States using NATO as a tool and I see that they actually are trying to pass the burden and consequences of the world economic crisis provoked by themselves to the back bone of other countries, especially to those countries which are rich with strategic minerals, strategic energy resources and so on in order to safeguard their privileged position and their good living standards and their privileged position in world economic relations. They are not ready to give up.

Robles: Can I comment on what you’ve just said about the living conditions? Because people in the West, a lot of people, and this is … it is a myth ... the people themselves, they are living worse than they have since the 1960s. Things are bad for everybody. So this is only benefiting a small group of elites, I think.

Jovanović: Yes, I think you are right, because the victims of the world crisis are generally speaking poorer countries of the world, countries rich with energy and strategic mineral resources and the population of the West equally as the population all over the world. I think the hardest hit are peoples of Africa, of Asia, of Latin America and so on. And this using NATO as a tool of corporate capitalism is aimed at preserving privileged position of these corporate capital companies to preserve the monopolies and privileged position of industrial financial capital and especially military-industrial sector. And so, actually, all of us we are victims of militarization of Europe and militarization of the world relations in general.

I think that we should be aware of that military factor is dominating economy, dominating trade, dominating politics. And it is just a reason to ask a question: where we are leading to? Where does it lead to, and what is the future of such a strategy? I think we are faced with a very disturbing development and we should not allow ourselves such a luxury to become wise when it is useless, when it is late. We should be aware now, although we should have been aware much earlier.

I myself as a Minister of Foreign Affairs of Yugoslavia in 1999, when there was aggression of NATO against my country, I said: ‘Do you understand who is next?’ Today we know who were, who have been next so far. But each time, each stage has, let’s say, more ambitious objective of this military-industrial sector.

So, Serbia was a very tiny, small sanctions exhausted country, it was not perhaps so risky to attack by the strongest military alliance in the history of civilization. But later on they were going on and we know that they were attacking much bigger countries and having a plan to expand this. And I think all leads us to one conclusion: developments in the world relations, and especially in Europe, are very, very disturbing. Let us be aware about it.

Robles: Libya, Syria, Ukraine – it is basically one formula they are using. You mentioned supporting terrorists, you mentioned synthetic revolutions. What other mechanisms did you see as the Foreign Minister to bring about the destruction of Yugoslavia? And what can you say about Libya, Syria, Ukraine, the Middle East, Egypt? The list is almost too long to mention already.

Jovanović: Well, let me first of all say that NATO aggression against Yugoslavia in 1999, exactly 15 years ago, was a turning point in world relations point of starting global interventionism. NATO did empower itself, illegally of course, contrary to all the laws existing in the world relations to intervene in any spot of the globe.

Just it was necessary to proclaim that United States or NATO have national or state interests in certain part of the world and they then prepare for aggression for invasions. To do so they in most instances use so called formula of humanitarian interventions. They invoke obligation to protect as they recently reformulated this humanitarian intervention pattern.

They in Yugoslavia accused Yugoslav government of massively violating human rights of Albanian national minority in Kosovo and Metohija. There was not anything similar to that. We have, let’s say, documents including written documents of German diplomats, of Austrian; one German general said: ‘before the aggression there were no systematic, no organized violations of human rights of Albanians in Kosovo and Metohija’. Another German diplomat Dietmar Hartwig said that accusations of that sort were perceived by himself as preparation for the aggression and so on.

In Libya you recall that they said that civilians were in danger and that they needed protection, in Mali they also said that terrorists were endangering stability and civil life in general. In Syria they say sarin gas was used by the government forces while the UN observers never indicated such a thing. They said only that there were proofs of sarin having been used but they could not state who used the sarin gas, while later on it was linked to the opposition forces and to Saudi Arabia, and whomever else.

In various other places this was also formula: protect civilians, protect human rights, and when such a signal comes from Washington then the whole network of so-called NGO, financed from Washington, from Soros Foundation, from Norway, from Great Britain, from Germany – they accelerate such an accusation and they make atmosphere of transforming lie into truth. Because mass media would accept such directives, and like CNN and some other networks of global nature would be disseminating such accusation. And they would at the same time later, at a later stage that were parallel with this, they finance opposition, inside opposition of targeted country.

They finance so-called democracy, democratization apparently to counter or to remove the totalitarian regimes. Then they would arm them. Next stage they would finance armament and train them in many directions for military actions: how to write paroles and symbols like symbol of OTPOR or the other symbols that we have seen in Maidan in Ukraine, in Kiev or in Cairo or in many other places, in South America and so on and so forth. So they then would provoke a staged event which should be signal that there is no other solution than to use military force. In case of Yugoslavia that was Reka case, in Bosnia and Herzegovina that was Markale Incident, we know the places in Syrian and other countries.

And then sometimes they have apparent diplomatic efforts, but not aimed at finding a political diplomatic solution, only saving diplomatic efforts in order to show that the regimes, so-called regimes, are unbearable and that they are not cooperating and that there is no other means than military means to resolve the problem. So this is mainly the pattern: humanitarian or intervention or responsibility to protect.

Robles: Right. Can you give us your opinion on what is going on now in Ukraine? So we’ve seen everything you’ve been talking about, we’ve seen everything that a lot of analysts and experts have been talking about, we‘ve seen this artificial outside implemented color revolution, we’ve seen and we’ve heard US officials having conversations about who is going to be in power. It is, just everything is out in the open now. But do you see something like a terrorist act or some big act going to happen soon in Ukraine? That would be the next step, I think.

Jovanović: Of course, I presume that Russian analysts and journalists and editors, like yourself, would be much better to interpret the events in Ukraine because it is not only geographically closer to you, but from any point of view, but I can imagine that most thinking people in Europe and the world would have their own assessments of events in Ukraine. As far as I’m concerned I think it is a repetition of the colored revolutions, so-called colored revolutions, and some of the elements of the pattern that I have previously elaborating are being clearly seen in developments in Ukraine.

But perhaps I would like first of all to say that it is part of the western strategy of expansion toward East. It is indeed to my profound belief the part of strategy to reach Russian borders and, well, they are abusing social, economic and other problems which partly resulted from their strategies and their policies of crediting or not crediting, policies implemented through IMF and World Bank, through European banks and so on. Sometimes I believe that they make people hungry in order to finish their strategy.

You were listening to part 2 of an interview with Ћivadin Jovanovic, the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia. He is also the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at Thanks for listening and we wish you the best.

3 March, 21:35

Ukraine Part of US/NATO Expansion to Russia Yugoslav FM Živadin Jovanović (Part 3)

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Patterns of a western instigated and engineered color revolution strategy are being clearly seen in developments in Ukraine and are part of the US/NATO strategy of expansion towards the East with the goal of reaching Russian borders on all sides. In light of the 15 year anniversary of the beginning of NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro, March 24, 1999, the Voice of Russia spoke to the last Foreign Minister of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Živadin Jovanović who spoke about these issues and the correlations that are now occurring in Ukraine.

Our interview took place in light of the 15 year anniversary of the beginning of NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro which occurred on March 24, 1999. FM Jovanović says that what we have seen in Serbia, Ukraine and scores of other countries is illegal under international law and the UN Charter. He also says the instruments that US/NATO use are wide and varied but include organizations such as USAID, the IMF, the World Bank and other supposedly “neutral” bodies. The Honorable Jovanović believes that Serbia should remain militarily neutral do more to expand cooperation with Russia, China, India and the BRICS countries as well as countries which never attach political or military conditions to economic, technological or financial cooperation.

This is John Robles, I’m speaking with Živadin Jovanović. He is the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia and the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. This is part 3 of an interview in progress. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at

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Jovanović: Most thinking people in Europe and the world would have their own assessments of events in Ukraine. As far as I'm concerned I think it is a repetition of the colored revolutions, so called “color revolutions”. And some of the elements of the patterns that I have previously elaborated on are being clearly seen in developments in Ukraine.

But perhaps, I would like, first of all to say that; it is part of the Western strategy of expansion towards the East. It is indeed to my profound believe the part of strategy to reach Russian borders.

And well, they are abusing social, economic and other problems which partly resulted from their strategies and their policies of crediting or not crediting, policies implemented through IMF and World Bank, through European Banks and so on. Sometimes I believe that they make people hungry in order to finish their strategy. They are abusing social and economic problems for the strategic purposes.

I mentioned the American strategy to project the situation in nowadays Europe at the time when Roman Empire was at a peek of force and you can see this strategy having been expanded. I think perhaps the reason is that Russia is still not strong enough to resist and sometimes I think they are in a hurry to finish their expansion toward the East before Russia fully assumes its own capacities and its own objectives. They are really with itchy hands.

They want to show strength at the time when they are in a profound crisis and it is a crisis that is the deepest since the ‘30s of the last century.

They are abusing the national composition of the population of Ukraine, abusing the fact that part of the population is buying ideas of better life through the EU, through the agreement of association and stabilization and so on and so forth.

I would like to say, speaking about dangers, really you see how much money and energy is wasted on revision of history. Now this year we are marking 100 years since the beginning of the first world war, and there is a hyper production of false explanation of the real causes of the first world war. In Germany, Austria, France, Great Britain most of the books printed on the occasion of 100 years of the first world war accuse Serbia and Russia as being culprits of the first world war.

We now on a minor plan let me say that events in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the destabilization of Bosnia and Herzegovina right now, was a reason for some European politicians, for the high international representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Valentine Inzko, to say: “Austria will dispose more military force in Bosnia. Austria will bring more policemen in Bosnia and will arrange a judiciary of Bosnia and Herzegovina.”

Nobody really understands that in terms of political strategy there are no differences between the EU and NATO, no differences between the EU and the US. Sometimes they spit at each other and sometimes they do nasty things to their partners, like spying on them, like listening and so on. But there is no difference in political strategy and the aims of the EU and NATO, between the EU and USA. All is coordinated, still showing that the strongest European power is the US.

So we see that in one hand the West is declaring that they support peaceful demonstrations and the right of people to express their democratic will and they are pumping million of dollars and even armaments, into opposition, into extremists who occupy (physically) institutions of Ukraine and Kiev and so on.

So this is an example where the West shows its cynicism and let's say immorality. Sometimes when we see what they do and what they talk, I ask myself what happened with the western civilization indeed? Can they be stable and progressive if they are abusing other nations, if they are so bluntly exploiting others and manipulating their own citizens, own allies and so on.

I said once: “If they don't know really where are the causes of their economic and financial crisis (of course they do know, but if they don't know) they should see in their immorality. Because you cannot play democracy inside and use only force outside your country.

Robles: To be honest I think it is a dying empire.

Jovanović: I see. If, let's say in my opinion I'm correct, that NATO aggression 15 years ago against Yugoslavia was a turning point toward the globalization of interventionism...

Robles: You are exactly correct..

Jovanović:I think that now we have reached the other turning point: this is the end of a unipolar world. And multi-polarity is not just an idea any longer, it is a reality, perhaps not in a full swing, not with a full force and not with full effects but we are witnessing the end of unipolar world relations and the beginning of a multi-polar world.

If the aggression in 1999 was towards domination and towards interventionism, towards totalitarian imperialism, then cases of reaching agreements about the nuclear energy of Iran, reaching some agreement on the Syrian conflict and now the events in Ukraine, are turning points towards multi-polarization which cannot be stopped.

And as far as NATO is concerned, NATO is fighting a lost war. Nobody can stop multi-polarization. And nobody can stop democratization which will be opened with full multi-polarization.

It is necessary to, let's say, do much more in the field of information (dissemination) that this knowledge of a few about what kind of world we live in today becomes the property of billions of the world’s population and the more we do in that direction, objectively informing the world community about these tectonic changes in world relations, I think the more secure our future will be. If we miss (the opportunity) to do so, if we miss doing something which must be done today, it might be really late.

I would like to say, speaking about dangers, really you see how much money and energy is wasted on revision of history. Now this year we are marking 100 years since the beginning of the first world war, and there is a hyper production of false explanation of the real causes of the first world war. In Germany, Austria, France, Great Britain most of the books printed on the occasion of 100 years of the first world war accuse Serbia and Russia as being culprits of the first world war.

We now on a minor plan let me say that events in Bosnia and Herzegovina, the destabilization of Bosnia and Herzegovina right now, was a reason for some European politicians, for the high international representative in Bosnia and Herzegovina, Valentine Inzko, to say: “Austria will dispose more military force in Bosnia. Austria will bring more policemen in Bosnia and will arrange a judiciary of Bosnia and Herzegovina.”

I really see that he himself may have not intention, but why Austria? Austria was occupying force in 1908, Austria occupied Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1914, Austro-Hungaria – they started the first world war from Bosnia attacking Serbia. And now Inzko is advocating more Austrian soldiers in Bosnia and Herzegovina, more policemen and so on. Is it the way to export democracy, to make Bosnia and Herzegovina a functional state, a ripe candidate for membership in NATO or the EU? Sometimes I think they are really wrong.

I think we have enough facts to analyze NATO strategy, we don't really have always to go back to history and to enter the risk of being accused of this or that theory.

What is sure: NATO adopted in 2010 in Lisbon a new strategy plan for the next 20 years, that means until 2020 and it proclaimed the right to globally intervene. At that summit the EU was represented, Russia also, I think president Medvedev was at that summit also,

Robles: Yes, yes.

Jovanović: but the European Union accepted NATO strategy in Europe as its own strategy. And we see equal strategy of NATO and EU when it comes to the globalization of interventionism, when it comes to expansion towards the East, when it comes to color revolutions and so on and so forth, even when it comes to constructing new anti-ballistic systems “so called” in so many countries in Europe. You know, it is not only Romania and Poland. It also Germany, it is even Spain and some other countries in Europe which accepted these anti-ballistic systems and they are preparing for something. We should be asking: what for?

We are seeing a revision of history and a revision of history, my friend, is just the first stage of the strategy of “revision of borders”. We should not be so naïve to say revision of history is a theoretic (or something like that) issue or problem. When somebody asks for a revision of let's say the Trianon Agreement from 1920, he is asking for changes of the borders of Hungary, Austria, or a changing of the borders of Serbia and so on and so forth.

So then we should be asking: Could a change of borders happen without wars? Are nations ready to agree with changes of the borders? I believe they are not ready and if they are not ready, what is next?

NATO is actually that machinery to rearrange, to redraw the borders in Europe. Should we disregard Brezhinsky's theory that Russia should be divided at least in three parts? Who is to divide? How to divide? Why to divide?

So, we see the strategy of NATO, which is actually defending the military industrial complex and the interests of corporate capital.

NATO leaders, especially American and the others, they are talking about spreading democracy, spreading human rights and so on and so forth and I'm curious how many people believe in this theory.

They actually are trying to put under their control the natural, economic and market resources of the planet to serve their interests, their greedy selfish interests. And this is all that NATO is for.

And having regard, that NATO is a military alliance to conquer other countries, to conquer resources and so on, I wonder if some countries of Europe should join NATO at all.

For example Serbia is pressed to join NATO. Every couple of months the highest officials of NATO send public messages: Serbia is welcomed! Serbia should know what to do! And so on. And actually they are inviting Serbia to submit official requests for membership in NATO.

It is my opinion that NATO is not a place for Serbia. NATO is a conquering organization, an imperialistic organization, an organization which aims to conquer other countries' and other peoples' resources to make other nations' lives miserable, and Serbia (on the other side) is a small European country, a peace loving country, which never has been linked with any imperial policies and so on.

Finally Serbia never was a member of any military alliance in its history. The longest period of peace Serbia lived through being neutral and being nonaligned. And finally to end: it is not to be neglected that NATO in 1999 during aggression they killed about 4,000 people of my country, they seriously wounded about 10,000, they destroyed civil infrastructure and civil economy at a value of $120 billion which was never recovered, nobody is even demanding or asking this to be done. And this is one additional reason why NATO cannot be a place for Serbia.

Serbia in my opinion, should remain militarily neutral and should conduct balanced foreign policy to remain open for cooperation with the EU, with the West in general, but on the basis of mutual interests, on the basis of respect of territorial integrity and sovereignty, on the basis of respect of independence and at the same time Serbia should do much more to expand cooperation with Russia first of all, then with China, then with India and with the BRICS countries in general, with all the countries who never advance any political strings to economic, technological or financial cooperation.

In my opinion this is good for the stability of Serbia, for the prosperity of Serbia and this is good for the stability of one “very unstable region” as the Balkans continue to be.

You were listening to part 3 of an interview with Živadin Jovanović, the former Foreign Minister of Yugoslavia. He is also the Chairman of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals. You can find the rest of this interview on our website at And as always we wish you the best wherever in the world you may be.

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27 February, 05:44

15-year Anniversary of NATO Aggression on Yugoslavia John Robles

In March 1999, at the direction of the United States of America, NATO engaged in its first act of illegal aggressive war, beginning what can only be called the “dark age of intervention” in which we are living today. The fact that NATO was allowed to get away with the aggression on Serbia and Montenegro emboldened US/NATO and the US military industrial intelligence banking complex and since that day, under a doctrine of Responsibility to Protect, Humanitarian Interventionism, Preventive War and then the all encompassing “War on Terror”, US/NATO have proceeded to destroy country after country and do away with leaders that they have not found to be submissive enough to their will.

The events of 9-11-2001 were a watershed moment for the geopolitical architects and served as a catalyst to allow them to expand their military machine to every corner of the world and invade countries at will and conduct operations with complete disregard for international law and accepted international norms.

In light of the 15th Anniversary of the NATO aggression the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals and other independent Civic associations in Serbia will hold an international conference from the 21st to the 24th of March 2014. The conference will gather 100 prominent intellectuals from all over the world, in addition to those from Serbia, Montenegro, the Republica Srpska and 10 to 15 guests from Russia, including Academician and retired Russian Army General Leonid Ivashov. The conference will also include the participation of the Veterans Alliance of Serbia and the Club of Generals and Admirals of Serbia.

The President of the Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals and the last Foreign Minister of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia Zivadin Jovanovic wrote the following summary of the events in light of the 15 year anniversary of the NATO aggression against Yugoslavia. (John Robles)

Do Not Forget, by Zivadin Jovanovic

Fifteen years have passed since the beginning of NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (24 March 1999). This aggression resulted in the loss of 4,000 human lives, including 88 children, and 10,000 people were severely wounded. Over two third of these victims were civilians. How many human lives have been lost in the meantime due to the consequences of weapons with depleted uranium, as well as of remaining cluster bombs, will hardly ever be established.

Breaching the basic norms of international law, its own founding act as well as constitutions of member countries, NATO was bombing Serbia and Montenegro during 78 days continuously destroying the economy, infrastructure, public services, radio and TV centers and transmitters, cultural and historical monuments. NATO bears responsibility for polluting the environment and endangering the health of present and future generations. Economic damage caused by the aggression is estimated at over USD 120 billion. War damage compensation has not yet been claimed, and judgments ruled by our court, by which the leaders of aggressor countries were convicted for the crimes against peace and humanity, were annulled after the coup d’état in 2000.

Governments of aggressor countries seized and occupied the Province of Kosovo and Metohija, and then formally delivered it to former terrorists, separatists and international organized crime bosses. An American military base was established in the Province – “Bondstill”, one of the largest beyond the U.S. territory.

After the aggression, over 250,000 Serbs and other non-Albanians have been forced out the Province of Kosovo and Metohija; even today, 15 years later they are not allowed to return freely and safely to their homes. Ethnic cleansing and even drastic change of ethnic population structure are tolerated by so called international community if only to the detriment of Serbs. The remaining Serbian population in the Province of about 120.000 continues to live in fear and uncertainty. Attacks upon Serbs, detentions and killings, including liquidations of their political leaders, have been continuing up to these days, and nobody is held responsible.

NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (FRY) in 1999 is a crime against peace and humanity. It is a precedent and a turning point towards global interventionism, arbitrary violation of the international legal order and the negation of the role of the UN. The “Bondstill” military base is the first and crucial ring in the chain of new American military bases reflecting strategy of expansion towards East, Caspian Basin, Middle East, towards Russia and its Siberia natural resources. Europe has thus got overall militarization and the new edition of the strategy “Drang nach Osten” (“Thrust to the East”). Destabilization and the tragic developments in Ukraine are just the most recent consequence of that strategy.

15 years after objectives of US/NATO military aggression continue to be pursued by other means. Serbia has been blackmailed to de facto recognize illegal secession of its Province of Kosovo and Metohija through so called Brussels negotiations. The most of the puppet states of the former Yugoslavia are much dependant on and indebted to the leading NATO/EU countries, their financial institutions and corporations so that they could hardly be considered independent states but rather neo-colonies. There is no stability in the Balkans, redrawing of borders has not ended, overall situation is dominated by devastated economy, unemployment, social tensions and misery. Europe, particularly its south-east regions, are experiencing profound economic, social and moral crisis.

Preparations for NATO military aggression against Serbia and Montenegro (FRY) and 1999 aggression itself have been used in the meantime as a blueprint for many other NATO aggressions and occupations - Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Mali and so on. Wherever NATO undertook “humanitarian intervention”, like in former Yugoslavia, it left thousands of dead and mutilated, millions of refugees and displaced persons, ethnic and religious divisions, terrorism and separatism, economic disaster and social misery. NATO expansionist strategy made Europe militarized. There are more US/NATO military bases in Europe today than at the peak of the Cold War era. What for? NATO imperial expansionist strategy has provoked new arms race with unforeseen consequences. Who really needs an organization threatening global peace and stability?

During and after the aggression, 150 Serb monasteries and churches built in the Middle Ages were destroyed. Killed or abducted were some 3,500 Serbs and other non-Albanians, and fates of many of them have not been established until today. Not even one of the thousands of crimes against Serbs in Kosovo and Metohija got a court clarification. Even such terrorist crimes as was blowing up the “Nis-express” bus on 16 February 2001, when 12 people were killed and 43 wounded, neither the murder of 14 Serb farmers reaping in the field in Staro Gracko, on 23 July 2009 remained without thorough investigation, be it by UNMIK, be it by EULEX, or by any other of so many structures of the so called international community.

The Swiss senator, Dick Marty, revealed documented report on trafficking in human organs of Serbs abducted in Kosovo and Metohija. The Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe, the oldest European democratic institution, adopted his Report as the official CE document. Although all factors stand verbally for an efficient investigation and bringing the perpetrators to justice, for many years now there have been no results whatsoever. The documentation on human organ trafficking submitted to The Hague Tribunal had been – destroyed!

The Belgrade Forum for a World of Equals, with support of other non-partisan and independent associations from Serbia, from the region and from the Serb Diaspora throughout the world, are organizing a number of activities under the common title “NOT TO FORGET”, with the aim to remind domestic and international public of human loss, destructions and other consequences of NATO aggression.

On Friday, 21 March 2014 at 6 p.m., in Sava Conference Centre, Belgrade (Milentija Popovica No. 1) an opening ceremony will launch a photographic exhibition presenting consequences of NATO aggression.

On Saturday, March 22 and on Sunday, March 23rd, 2014, International conference “Global Peace vs. Global Interventionism and Imperialism” will be held (Sava Conference Centre. Conference starts at 10 a.m. Some 100 prominent personalities from all over the world have confirmed their participation.

On Monday, March 24th, 2014, at 09.30 a.m., the International Memorial Marathon Belgrade-Hilandar will start in front of Saint Sava Church.

The same day, at 11 a.m., civic associations, representatives of Serb Diaspora, guests from abroad and individuals will lay flowers at the monument to children - victims of the aggression, in the Tašmajdan park, and the same day at 12 a.m. flowers will be laid at the Monument to all victims of the aggression, Friendship park, Ušće, New Belgrade.


27 August 2012, 18:42

Kosovo Police's Secret Arrests By John Robles

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"They forced me to sign a confession. And they kicked me out of Kosovo, they drove me to the border. I couldn’t contact my embassy, not EULEX – the European Union legal mission in Kosovo or anyone." - Kristian Kahrs. Mr. Kahrs is a freelance journalist, a writer and an ex-NATO Officer who is suing the Kosovo authorities and investigating the situation in Kosovo.

Can you tell our listeners what is going on down there? I understand you were taken into custody again and all your equipment was confiscated. Why was that and are they going to give it back? And what is going on with your lawsuit?

Well, I really hope they are going to give it back. I went to Kosovo to hopefully have a chat with this policewoman. But it seems like I had been on a secret list of arrest from the Kosovo police because they called the Cybercrime division of the Kosovo police and they took me into custody for more than 48 hours. And they forced me to sign a confession. And they kicked me out of Kosovo, they drove me to the border. I couldn’t contact my embassy, not EULEX – the European Union legal mission in Kosovo or anyone. Clearly this is an attempt to intimidate me and scare me.

You said they forced you to sign a confession. How did they force you and what was in this confession?

Well, this confession was in Albanian and to this date, I do not know the specifics because I never received a Serbian translation. But apparently they are charging me for taking pictures of this Gordana Grujić, the Serbian policewoman, who is working in the Kosovo police. But when I was asking for a translation, they said - no, you are going to spend two or three days more in custody waiting for this translation into Serbian. And of course I was very much concerned about my privacy because of course you are also a journalist and you know that you have a lot of sensitive information on your computer. Of course you have sources that need for protection and everything. And I’m very much concerned that the Kosovo police now have a complete access to all my information. So, I wanted to get back to Belgrade as soon as possible. Or get out of custody as soon as possible to be better able to fight for my privacy. So, that’s why I signed this confession, because I did not want the Kosovo police to have unhindered access to my computer, more than absolutely necessary.

Did they tell you when they’ll give your equipment back? I understand they have your computer, your cellphones and your camera.

Today it is Saturday and they are saying that the earliest they can release the equipment is on Monday. And I’m having a very good assistance from the Norwegian Embassy in Kosovo. Of course I don’t think Norway should have an embassy in Kosovo in the first place because we are one of the countries that recognized Kosovo as an independent state. But it is very good to have the Norwegian diplomats. And I’ve also involved the Norwegian Minister of Foreign Affairs and also the Norwegian Minister of Defense. So, I have received excellent help from them but it is limited what they can do in this situation because it’s not clear when Norway had recognized Kosovo they can only complain but they have no legal powers to interfere in a foreign state.

Do you think this was retribution for your lawsuit, the fact that they’ve detained you again?

Of course, I mean I was dropped on a border… let me go back first to the events on June 28th this year. This was the important religious holiday Vidovdan in Serbia, it was marking the defeat in, they call it Battle of Kosovo in 1389. And of course this is very important for Serbian identity. And a lot of Serbians came there with the Serbian artifacts, their hats and flags, and everything which is actually supported in the new Kosovo constitution. So, actually the police in Kosovo, they violated their own constitution when they confiscated flags and everything with Cyrillic letters or red, white and blue which are the colours of the Serbian flag.

So, of course I have been reading the Kosovo constitution and I think I can say that I know their constitution better than most police officers because their constitution is not so bad with the general protection for minority rights, there is a protection for freedom of expression, and what is important for my case is the protection of privacy. The Kosovo police had violated their own constitution. So, of course together with the Serbian political analyst Obrad Kesić, we are now collecting a legal team to sue the Kosovo police for harassment and discrimination on June 28th .

And of course the confiscation of my property and the fact that they threw me in a cell for more than 48 hours, by the time this interview would be released I hope to have my equipment back. But of course I have absolutely no confidence in the Kosovo police as an organization. Even if there are some honest people working in the Kosovo police the organization is rotten.

At one point you were a K4 officer, right? You were a NATO officer?

That’s correct. I was sent by Norway to be a spokesman for NATO in Pristine. And of course I have been through a journey, since I was an officer in K4, for seven months from January 2000.

Can you tell our listeners why you had a complete change of heart? What happened? What changed your point of view on the situation?

There are two important events. One date that is very important for me was February 16, 2001, because then I was in Pristine and I heard big news, there was a big bomb in Podujevo. And this is in a completely Albanian dominated area. So, I went out there as a journalist and Albanian terrorists had placed an IED – improvised explosive device under the road, and they blew up a bus express from Nis in pieces. And the twelve people died, including two year old Danilo and both his parents. And I can tell you John, still to this day I remember the smell and I remember the sight of the body bag, of these Serbian victims. That is when I started thinking why did we go to war. I could see that we in K4 failed as an organization to protect Serbs and non-Albanians.

19 July 2012, 12:46

No Peace in Serbia, No Positive Signs from New President Dr. Jovan Deretic

No peace in Serbia, no positive signs from the new president - interview

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“We have a very big problem – our government, our authority doesn’t even put any protestation, nothing, they talk, they are for the peace, but what kind of peace is it when 60 people are attacked and injured?” Dr. Jovan Deretic, a political science doctor and a member of the Petrovskaya Academy in Saint-Petersburg, the president of the Free Serbia Movement in Serbia, talks about events in Kosovo, Serbia.

I talked to you near Vidovdan, that was on June 28th . Can you tell our listeners about the events?

Vidovdan is our traditional voyage to the place of the battle of Kosovo. We commemorate this day, and this year like every year before people were going to commemorate this day. Right away, when they crossed the line, the demarcation line, police of Kosovo attacked people, they took off their shirts, caps even from the women and some people stayed without clothes.

The police attacked people?

Yes. Right away, once they crossed the line, they attacked. In the place of the commemoration they used, even their rifles, they opened fire and many people were injured, totally 60 people were injured. And when they were coming back in the buses, one of the buses was filled with children, children from 10-14 years, and they put fire in the buses, and 15 children were burned.

Can you tell me about the bus attack? Now were the Kosovo police involved? Were they watching, were there EULEX observers anywhere, was there K4 anywhere when this was happening?

Nobody did anything from the side of K4, they just watched and went away, the same thing with EULEX, with the police of the European Union, they didn’t even intervene. Nobody intervened. I think the government of Kosovo has given order to the police to do this, the government of Kosovo has blessing from the European Union to put pressure on Serbia to recognize Kosovo.

I see. So, you are saying that the K4 troops, they were there, they saw this happening, the attack on the buses in particular, and they did nothing, they left?

They did nothing, they left, absolutely nothing.

And the EULEX observers also did nothing?

EULEX observers did absolutely nothing.

How many people are still in hospital?

I made some inquiries because our authorities put a black-out on this story, they don’t even publish anything about it and there are a couple of children still in hospital.

They are still in the hospital?

We have a problem. We have a very big problem – our government, our authority doesn’t even put any protestation, nothing, they talk, they are for the peace, but what kind of peace is it when 60 people are attacked and injured? For all governments in the world that is Casuus Belli. I think these people who are now on the way to create a new government, they are all with European Union. The European Union has given an ultimatum to Serbia about Kosovo. Serbia must accept Kosovo the Embassy in Belgrade, and Embassy of Serbia must be established in Pristine. That means complete recognition. We had an election, and this election gave nothing. We have same people in power and people who were prepared a long time before, to continue a kind of policy because the old government was used and there was a possibility of uprising. And they put new people in the place to slow down a revolt of the population.

Last time we talked you mentioned something about Serbia going bankrupt if I remember right.

We are in the economical situation that is very critical. The old government took a loan from every side to pay these employees and these people. Now Serbia must pay 5 billion Euros this year just for the interest on the loan. Serbia does not have this money and we are going to be bankrupt in the next 2 months.

I see.

They talked about reducing the wages of the employees to stop paying the retirement but you know, if it happens, if they really go this way, there will really be an uprising.

Going back to an attack, I had some reports that the Kosovo police were telling the Serb people that Kosovo was Albania. Do you know anything about that?

Yes, they were saying “you have nothing to look over there”. This country is Albania and you go away. They are very strongly encouraged by European Union, very strongly encouraged.

Do you see any positive signs from the new president?

Unfortunately, I don’t see any. This man, he doesn’t know what to do and how to do. He tries something but he’s just scared and weak he does nothing, absolutely nothing. People expect from him to do something, to change something but he has the same policy - betrayal of the state.

Listen, I had some reports that these events on Vidovdan were planned to put pressure on the Serbian people. Do you think that’s correct?

Yes, right. Every bad thing that’s going on is connected to how Serbia must join European Union. Some media, some journalists publish, even in Russia, that in Serbia the majority of the people is for European Union. That is not true. About 80% of the people in Serbia is against European Union.


80%. If now there is a referendum, European Union can’t pass, nobody will allow this, they know what will be the result. What is important for the United States - is Serbia to join NATO. Strategically that is very important thing. They are not really much interested economically, politically if Serbia joins the European Union or not.

So, they don’t care about the Albanians either, do they?

Albanians are just drug dealers. America has money problems with them. Those people are not yet at European level. They are very backward. They are not interesting in any way for Americans but they are interesting to use against us to put the pressure on us.

I see. Ok, great.


16 July 2012, 11:52

US Policy in the Balkans: Imperial Ambitions John Robles

Many questions remain as to the real reasons for the NATO and US bombing of the former Yugoslavia. Was it a test run for an even grander plan of world domination? Was it a political move to draw attention away from a US president’s infidelities? Recently the site Wikileaks began publishing the Statfor e-mails, some of them contain bomb-shells others an inside look into the often twisted thinking behind US policy. You decide which one this is.

Recently while going through some information on the Wikileaks site, as many journalists I am sure do, trying to find something of interest or perhaps a bomb-shell, I came across an e-mail regarding an article by the founder, CEO and self-described chief intelligence officer of the private intelligence corporation Stratfor. The original can be seen here:

The reason Stratfor is an important organization to watch, in my opinion, is because they provide intelligence to private individuals and corporations worldwide that is used in the implementation of policy and the formation of plans and goals. Stratfor also closely echoes the official and often un-spoken position of the U.S. on issues that have global impact. Those two points and the fact that Stratfor has, or at least wants you to believe they have, close connections to the U.S. intelligence community may allow the observer to obtain a look at the thinking that is used in the formulation of U.S. policy and/or activities.

As a piece currently published on their site shows Stratfor does not hide the U.S.’ imperial ambitions or its plans at world domination, which brings me back to the subject of the e-mail I mentioned above. The article by George Friedman, about which the e-mail was written, was disturbing as it describes in an open, candid and arrogant manner U.S. policy regarding Kosovo, the Balkans and the former Yugoslavia.

The article itself was written in December of 2007 but is still revealing enough to be of historical significance as it shows the attitude of the U.S. towards Russia as well, during a time when Russia welcomed the U.S. with (for lack of a better expression) open arms.

His first claim regarding Kosovo, is that it is an “archaic topic”, he also says it isn’t regarded seriously and that you “… hear about it but you don’t care.” This is definitely a point that the Serb people would have a problem with and clearly shows a belittling attitude toward the whole conflict.

His comments about Russia are no better and he states that at the time of the Yugoslavia campaign, Russia was weak and its wishes were irrelevant. He goes on to describe how the U.S. intentionally lied to Russia so Russia would end the war the U.S. started, and was apparently helpless to stop, by promising Russia a peacekeeping role in Kosovo which the U.S. never allowed. He also repeats how the events in Kosovo “fly in the face of Russia” as if this alone is reason enough for what they are doing in Serbia.

Mr. Friedman goes on to admit that the so called “atrocities” that were supposed to have occurred in Kosovo and what the Clinton administration said was taking place were all fabrications and that this “was not the point”. So what was the point? The point was that the U.S. and NATO had geopolitical plans for the Balkans and were set on dividing and remaking the region to their own advantage or as Mr. Friedman put it “continue the policy of re-engineering Yugoslavia.”

Regarding supporting the independence of Kosovo he admits in perfectly clear terms that the U.S. and NATO (KFOR) are operating “… without either a U.N. or NATO mandate.”

The arrogance continues with opinions-presented-as-fact regarding Russia and Russian thinking or beliefs. Mr. Friedman also makes several statements and claims regarding what President Vladimir Putin was thinking or feeling as if he had access to the President’s thoughts or emotions. Something completely inappropriate when speaking about a head of state, a leader which it was clear the writer knew almost nothing about.

The piece ends with the following and I quote, “But here is the basic fact: For the United States and its allies, Kosovo is a side issue of no great importance.” I am sure that for the Serbian people, who view Kosovo as an integral and extremely important part of their heritage and country, such a statement and such thinking would be cause for alarm, to say the least.

Neither Mr. Friedman nor Startfor responded to requests for comments or an interview regarding the e-mail in question.

13 July 2012, 18:31

Kosovo police assault Serbian holiday observers - eye-witness  Kristian Cars

Kosovo police assault Serbian holiday observers - eye-witness

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Interview with Kristian Kahrs, a freelance journalist and a writer investigating the situation in Kosovo. He is also a former KFOR officer who publically apologized to the Serb people.

Could you tell our listeners a little bit about what happened to you? It was Vivodan which is a very important holiday for the Serb people. Maybe you could give us a little background on that? And tell us about what happened to you with the Kosovo police?

Well, we were talking last Thursday, a week ago, June 28th. The Vivodan is an important Serbian religious holiday. So, thousands of Serbs came to Kosovo this day to pay their respect and to celebrate this religious holiday. But in Kosovo they are quite sensitive about their national identity. Of course you Russians and the majority of the countries in the world did not recognize Kosovo yet. That’s why they are very sensitive about anything that could endanger this national identity.

So, Serbians coming with the Serbian flags and colours, clothing and everything, they were met by the Kosovo police and this property was confiscated and thrown in a ditch. Of course I didn’t come there to provoke. I came there to record but I had some Serbian flags, flags on my T-shirt and on a hat and because I didn’t want to provoke I put that in my luggage. But when I came to the checkpoint before the Gazimestan monument where a couple of thousands Serbs had gathered, the police were searching my bag, found my T-shirt and my hat, and threw them in a ditch in a brutal manner. What happened later, I went up to the checkpoint in Gazimestan and demanded an explanation. Some representatives from the EULEX and from the OSCE – the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe – none of these representatives were available and I could not speak to the spokespeople or the commander of the Kosovo police.

So, the whole thing end up by me being arrested. And last Friday on June 29th I got my sentence and I had to pay a ticket of 500 euro for disturbing the public order and I also was fined because I said that Kosovo has a choice. Kosovo wants to be eligible for membership in the EU, they want to apply democratic values and everything. They can do all that but then I said that they can apply democratic values and respect the freedom of speech or they would be a monkey republic. This was also part of the reason why I was convicted to pay a thousand euro.

Of course it was not the wisest thing for me to say that Kosovo would be a monkey republic but on this day the new state of Kosovo did not show any basic respect for the human rights and the freedom of expression because we also saw women who had normal T-shirts with the Serbian flag symbols at this religious ceremony and they were forced to take them off. So, the Serbs had to attend this religious ceremony only in their bra. So, the Serbian men came without Serbs to the ceremony and the police gave no explanation, no compensation, they just threw it in a ditch and no one was allowed to retrieve their things.

You a filing a class action lawsuit against the Kosovo police. Can you tell our listeners a little bit about that?

The reality is that in Kosovo Serbs and other minorities don’t have the basic human rights like the freedom of expression, freedom of speech and that’s why we are collecting all the victims that were harassed by the Kosovo police to file a class action lawsuit against the Kosovo police for discrimination and harassment.

Can you tell me a little bit of anything you know regarding possible Kosovo police involvement in the attacks on the busses that were carrying the schoolchildren?

There is no doubt that this was pre-planned and I find it likely that the Kosovo police had an intelligence that this would happen. But there is no evidence that KPS was directly involved. However I would like to have an international investigation to find out if the Kosovo police had any official role in this.

Have you heard anything about the children that were injured?

I know that two people were seriously injured. They were at the hospitals in Nis. I have not heard any news that they have died or something like that. But of course it is serious that the state of Kosovo is not respecting human rights and that they are using excessive force when they are trying to protect their national identity. And I hope that there will be an international and independent investigation of these matters to find out if the Kosovo police have intentionally provoked the situation.

When they were harassing you, when they made these women undress, when they went through your luggage, were you aware of any EULEX or K4 troops or officers observing what was taking place?

There were no representatives of K4 there. Kosovo police was responsible for the security. However there were three observers from the EULEX.

What were they doing?

They were observing but they were in no position to give any statements because their spokesman was not there. There were several people who tried to get statements from EULEX but they were completely silent. I think it is important that the police officers who were searching my bag, they told me the following – this is Albania, this is not Serbia. If a normal Albanian would have said – this is Albania, this is not Serbia – it would have been bad and we would have known that this is a nationalistic Albanian. However when the representatives of the rule of laware saying – this is Albania, this is not Serbia – it is an official statement from the state that is supposed to be multiethnic. He could have said – this is Kosovo, this is not Serbia. But the police officer said – this is Albania, this is not Serbia – which is a clear signal that Serbs are not welcome in Kosovo.

Are there reasons to believe that this was planned for this date, this year? I understand last year everything went by pretty quietly.

I’m convinced that this was an intentional provocation to give a clear signal that this is the Albanian land and not Serbian at all. The reason why I’m saying this is that there were riot police there, anti-terror police heavily armed and in light gear and you had also normal police officers, and they were definitely planning this. This harassment was definitely planned by the Kosovo police. This is something I hope will be revealed in our class action lawsuit against the Kosovo police.

17 June 2012, 21:13

What is NATO/KFOR Really Doing in Kosovo? John Robles

What is NATO/KFOR really doing in Kosovo?

What exactly is NATO doing in Kosovo? Who or what are they protecting and what are they stationed there for? When we look at what they have been doing since June of 1999, in reality it does not look good.

We must not forget that NATO is a military organization and military organizations are designed for one thing, the legalized killing of the opponents of a state. No matter how noble NATO tries to paint itself it is an organization that should have been disbanded at the end of the cold war and it has in itself become one of the most destabilizing factors and causes of death and destruction in modern times.

We must also not forget that NATO operates as a proxy for the US in promoting US interests in areas of the world where the US can not rightfully interfere, although this in reality does little to stop them.

Putting aside for the moment the destruction of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, and other countries obliterated by Western “intervention” let’s take a look for a moment at Kosovo.

What exactly is the US, I mean NATO, I mean KFOR, doing in Kosovo? What is their objective in the country? Who or what are they protecting and what are they stationed there for?

When we look at what they have been doing since June of 1999, in reality it does not look good.

Wanting to be fair and impartial when gathering material for this piece one of the first places I went to was their own site. Not surprisingly it is filled with the usual western catch phrases and pseudo reasoning that many in the West gobble up to justify the killing and destruction they wreak on the world. Words and phrases like multi-ethnic force, assistance to civil authorities, civil protection, and my favorite sentence, “KFOR is cooperating with and assisting the UN, the EU and other international actors, as appropriate, to support the development of a stable, democratic, multi-ethnic and peaceful Kosovo.” Sounds good, but it is poppycock.

First of all who are these “other international actors”? The drug dealers and traffickers in human organs? The Mafia killers? The US imperial paymasters? The US sponsored war criminals? As for a stable blah-blah multi-ethnic Kosovo, well, obviously that means one free of Serbs, and this my dear reader is what it is all about.

Let’s go back in time a bit to February 2008, this was the month when after protestors attacked the US Embassy in Belgrade, the former Bush Administration finally admitted after; starting two wars of aggression and the subsequent occupations of sovereign nations, the extensive use of torture, extraordinary renditions, the illegal prison at Guantanamo and extensive black sites worldwide, there was such a thing as international law.

The destruction, dismantling and dividing up of Yugoslavia into ethnically pure sections was the crowning achievement of Hillary’s husband, former president Bill Clinton, so the finally seal on the destruction of the former Yugoslavia, namely the “independence” of Kosovo, was something she wholeheartedly embraced. Like Hillary’s famous quote on the occasion of the death of Muammar Gaddafi, “…we came, we saw, he died” her statement on the occasion of Kosovo’s separation from Serbia also showed monumental callousness and complete disregard for human life and dignity.

Pretending to be so wise as to the local language, as her state department did with the “Overload” button disgrace, she used the Albanian word for Kosovo, “Kosova”, she referred to Kosovo by the Albanian "Kosova" and stated; "…it will allow the people of Kosova to finally live in their own democratic state. It will allow Kosova and Serbia to finally put a difficult chapter in their history behind them and to move forward." The only problem, it was ripping the heart out of the Serbian people.

According to Nebojsa Malic at Global there can be no doubt that the March 1999 attack on Yugoslavia was illegal, in an article the following articles, treaties and citations were listed.

Violated articles:

Article 2, section 4 of the UN Charter clearly says: "All Members shall refrain in their international relations from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state…”

Article 53 (Chapter VIII ) of the UN Charter clearly says that: "…no enforcement action shall be taken under regional arrangements or by regional agencies without the authorization of the Security Council".

From NATO's own charter, the North Atlantic Treaty of 1949, Article 1:"The Parties undertake… to settle any international dispute… by peaceful means…”

Article 7: "This Treaty… shall not be interpreted as affecting… the rights and obligations under the Charter of the Parties which are members of the United Nations, or the primary responsibility of the Security Council for the maintenance of international peace and security."

Other laws and treaties: the Helsinki Final Act of 1975 for violating the territorial integrity of a signatory state.

The 1980 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties for using coercion to compel a state to sign a treaty i.e., the Rambouillet ultimatum.

Finally Yugoslavia did not attack any NATO member nor was it a security threat to any country in the region. What NATO did on March 24, 1999 was a war of aggression and a crime against humanity.

So if the invasion was illegal, then obviously the ensuing occupation was as well and everything KFOR/NATO/US is doing there is also illegal.

So what does KFOR do in Kosovo? With an almost total and complete media blackout, and I have seen this with my own eyes, there is little news we receive from the area. However the reports we get are of the constant and methodical limitation to the freedom of movement and supplies to the Serbian population, in particular in Northern Kosovo, and reports of the continued practice of limiting Serbs to certain areas or ghettos making them refugees in their own country. This serves to ethnically cleanse and divide the country along ethnic and racial lines, like most American cities, a comparison that I can not help but make.

KFOR also protects, enables and provides support for the belligerent side they have chosen to support in this conflict. What are the reasons, they are many but one of the main ones is money, huge money, which has been filling KFOR coffers for years on end and according to countless media reports going back for years, from countless illicit sources. (That is a topic for a later discussion.)

On Friday there was another incident of KFOR opening fire, this time with rubber bullets, on peaceful Serbs as they blocked an important road and attempted to make Serbs accept Kosovo license plates for their cars, an obvious transparent attempt to make them recognize Kosovo as an independent entity.

A press release from the Raška-Prizren Eparchy stated that they are concerned about KFOR’s latest actions in northern Kosovo and stated “attempts to force the Serbs in the north to accept Kosovo license plates by using combat vehicles and blocking roads that are the main channel for supplies and medicines, are creating a serious humanitarian crisis that could have immense consequences”.

The Eparchy also strongly urged all sides to work constructively to find solutions that contribute to survival of the Serbian people in the entire territory of Kosovo and Metohija.

For the Serbian people, they are fighting for their very existence, for KFOR and the “West”, Kosovo is just another pawn in a filthy game of geopolitical influence and power. As soon as it is used up, or no longer needed, they will throw it away as well.

The opinions and views expressed here are the writer’s own.


29 June 2012, 16:24

Violence Against Serbs in Kosovo on St. Vitus Day John Robles

June 28th was a very important day for the Serbian people and for Serbian Orthodox Christians.

On the 28th of June, according to the Gregorian Calendar, Orthodox Serbs celebrate Vidovdan or St. Vitus Day or the Feast of St. Vitus as it is also known, but the day is also very important for other reasons.

The date is also associated with the epic Battle of Kosovo when Serbian martyrs gave their lives to defend Kosovo against the Ottoman Empire on June 28, 1389 and the Serbian Orthodox Church has named it a Memorial Day for St. Prince Lazar who led the Serbs against the massive invading army of the Ottoman Empire and perished. During the battle the Ottoman leader Sultan Murad I was killed by the mythological Serbian knight Miloš Obilić.

So as you see the day is very important for the Serbian people. Historically the day has also seen many significant events take place. For example it is not a coincidence that on June 28, 1914 the Austro-Hungarian crown prince, Franz Ferdinand, was assassinated triggering World War I. Another important event on this day was the signing of the Treaty of Versailles which ended the same war.

On June 28, 1921 Serbian King Alexander I introduced what was called the Vidovdan Constitution, for the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.

On June 28, 2012 Serbs traveling to and from the site of the Battle of Kosovo and attempting to celebrate the proud day in their history were attacked, persecuted and forced to tolerate disgraceful and degrading treatment at the hands, according to witness reports, Albanian police, thugs, and vicious hooligans under the watchful eye of KFOR.

KFOR and EULEX for their part have apparently made rare statements condemning the attacks but any activity from their side to bring those responsible to justice has yet to be seen.

There are conflicting reports and it is hard to get an accurate picture of the event because of the continuing media blackout and obfuscating by the western press but the events apparently included the following: At approximately 04:20 in the morning a multi-ethnic police checkpoint in a village in the municipality of Bujanovac Dobrosin came under heavy automatic weapons fire from the territory of Kosovo and one policeman was injured by a high-velocity rifle round.

On the approach to Gazimestan members of special units of the Kosovo Police set up checkpoints and subjected the Serbs who were on their way to the celebrations to degrading and treatment. Serbs wearing t-shirt with words such as “Kosovo is Serbia” and anything with Cyrillic writing on it was seized and not given back. There were some reports that Serbian flags were also being seized and that women were made to remove their t-shirts too.

A radio and TV journalist from Serbia Sinisa Mihajlovic said that the Kosovo police forcibly removed her shirt and a reporter with the Voice of Serbia, Goran Maunaga, also was forced to remove his shirt. Mihaijlovic was quoted in the press as saying they were told that they could only stay in Gazimestan until 14.00 hours. Most of those wishing to enter Gazimestan were turned away nonetheless.

Other shirts that were seized had inscriptions which read "Banja Luka - Serbian Republic" and "Brothers, we are with you." According to Mihajlovic, the explanation from the Kosovo and Metohija police was that wearing t-shirts printed in Cyrillic, showing arms or any word that is associated with Serbia is forbidden by law.

One of the worst incidents of the day came at around 08:00 am when a group of fans of the Partisan Belgrade Football Club, which had organized celebrations on St. Vitus day, were stopped by Kosovo police at Merdare and beaten and attacked. 20 people were injured with 10 being listed in serious condition. There are reports that police opened fire on the youths, seriously injuring at least one when they tried to run for safety after the bus they were in was attacked by an Albanian mob.

By far the most disturbing was an attack by Albanian mobs and Kosovo police on two buses carrying approximately 70 Serbs, youth aged 8 to 16 who were travelling to Gazimestan, and near Pristina were turned back by police, according to media reports. Some reports said that the police then escorted the buses to a point where they stopped and were ambushed by an Albanian mob which through concrete block at the buses to break the windows and then threw Molotov cocktails at the buses in an apparent attempt to burn the children inside alive. The subsequent clashes reportedly left 50 people injured.

The attack by Muslim Albanian fanatics came on one of the holiest Serbian national and religious, orthodox Christian holidays, which marks anniversary of 28 June 1389 “Battle of Kosovo”,

The head of the Serbian Orthodox Church in Kosovo, Bishop Teodosije, condemned the attacks and a number of other savage Albanian attacks on the Serbian Christian minority and as Mirodrag Nivakovic, a Serbian reporter, put it, all “under the idle watch of the so-called “stabilizing” KFOR force, and the European “mission of law” Eulex police.

The opinions and views expressed in this piece are the authors own.

Information from the VOR, Tanjug, Serbian Pravda, Kurir, Nezavisne Novine and private sources used in this report. Numbers and details subject to change as there are conflicting reports and updated information is still coming in.

14 June 2012, 16:22

KFOR Mission in Kosovo: Ethnic cleansing John Robles

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Interview with Priest-Monk Father Ksenofont from the Orthodox Eparchy of Ras-Prizren in Exile in Kosovo.

Regarding the events of last Friday and over the weekend in Northern Kosovo, what has the church done to help the victims of the KFOR violence?

Well, I can talk as a Priest-Monk of the Diocese of Ras-Prizren in Exile and can't speak on behalf of the whole of the Serbian Orthodox Church. Unfortunately, the events that we’ve seen, the last couple of days are not surprising because it’s just continuation of the politics of the so-called international community led by NATO in Kosovo fighting for enabling and functionality of the independent Kosovo.

Although the mandate of KFOR from the very beginning in 1999 was to establish substantial autonomy of Kosovo, Serbia, or at the time the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, that is Serbia and Montenegro.

From the very beginning they did a big job of helping the Albanian national minority in Kosovo, separating Kosovo from the rest of Serbia.

The small part of Northern Kosovo where the Serbs still combat in accordance to the resolution from 44 not allowing the Albanians to engulf them and to ethnically cleanse even these last parts of Kosovo where Serbs lived with others. So we shouldn’t forget that in Northern Kosovo there is also a number of Albanians, Serbs, Bosnians and other ethnic minorities so that they won't engulf the last parts of Kosovo where Serbs live in prison.  And KFOR puts itself in the role of helping Albanians in doing that.

In this regard you said that they’re more or less involved in ethnic cleansing in Kosovo?

Well, yes, you know, like I told you, the mission of KFOR in Kosovo, the mission of international organisms in Kosovo since ’99, was to establish a peaceful quiet environment. Unfortunately, the whole of Kosovo has been ethnically cleansed from Serbs. And today, paradoxically, nobody poses the question: why Kosovo has been almost totally ethnically cleansed from Kosovo Serbs? So from every city in Kosovo today you would find a handful of Serbs only living in some enclaves around Kosovo, but the cities; totally ethnically cleansed. For example you have, in Pristina, which had a 40,000 Serbian community before the conflict and which has a handfull of Serbs living a ghetto-like life.

They’re all in ghettos, you say?

Most of the Serbs from Kosovo have gone to the rest of Serbia. There are some enclaves in Kosovo, some Serbian villages where still Serbs live so, where now, these clashes with KFOR have been. In the rest of Kosovo the Serbs are some 130 to 150 thousand. For example, I’m one of the people living in the enclaves here with the people in the so called Sredska-Zhupa within Kosovo in the village called Brezovica on the mountain of Šara.

Can you give is a little bit of the history of the Orthodox Church in Exile of Ras-Prizren?

I don’t know how much your listeners are in course of the history of Kosovo itself, the history of the Serbian Orthodox Church in Kosovo, especially in the last decade or two. But many of them certainly have heard the name of bishop Artemije who was the Diocesan Bishop of the Diocese of Ras-Prizren. He was a remarkable man who in the last two decades managed to make a real Renaissance: revival of the monastic and spiritual life in Kosovo and the diocese of Ras-Prizren had a flourishing and monastic life both of monks and nuns. There were more monks and nuns in his diocese a few years ago than in the whole of the rest of the Serbian Orthodox Church. On the other hand, bishop Artemije was a very principled man concerning both the teaching of the Orthodox Church which somehow in the last years was very much compromised by the influence of Eccuminism all over the Orthodox world and Bishop Artemije fought against this influence of Eccuminism which he himself and holy fathers before him called a pan-heresey. On the other hand Bishop Artemije was an outspoken defender of the protection of international law in Kosovo that is keepsaking the Kosovo as the most precious, most holy part of Serbia; and a part of Serbian history, a part of Serbian tradition and a part of Serbian spirituality within Serbia .

Unfortunately, the developments in Serbia in last years which we have been witnessing, that regime in Serbia led by the Democratic Party and these last years by President Tadić was very much inclined to accept many of the blackmails coming from the side of the Western countries who recognized independence of Kosovo.

Bishop Artemije was an outspoken critic of these politics, of many of the aspects of the politics of president Tadic and in 2010, unfortunately some parts of the Serbian Orthodox Church, which were very much inclined to subdue to this secular influence of the Serbian state, understood, or accepted the fact that bishop Artemije represents a very big obstacle to the causes, to the ideas, of finally realizing the idea of independent Kosovo.

A way should have been found to remove bishop Artemije from Kosovo and the supposed financial problems within the dioceses were found and Bishop Artemije deposed. I must emphasize that until today these financial accusations haven’t been proven although they have been in the court for the last two years. Bishop Artemije removed, deposed from his post, many of us monks and nuns and some priests who were his faithful spiritual children decided to follow Bishop Artemije in his spiritual exile opposing ourselves to this injustice and raising our voice. Many of the Serbs today in Serbia, I would say, and with every day even more, understand the just cause and the just fight and struggle Bishop Artemije and his monastics are fighting in Serbia.

What percentage of the population in Serbia and in Kosovo are followers of the Orthodox Church?

I would say some 80% of the population today of Serbia are Orthodox. Kosovo itself represents the holiest part of Serbia with a very rich number of medieval monasteries and churches. One should not forget the monasteries at Gracanica, Visoki Decani, Banjska, the church (Ogroits Tsarevich?) in Prizren because in medieval times Kosovo itself was the center of Serbian state and the place where the Serbian king sat. We have to mention that since the arrival of international so-called Peace Forces to Kosovo we had more than 150 churches destroyed. One third of these churches and monasteries are medieval monuments, some of those really jewels of medieval Serbian Orthodox architecture and art, with many icons destroyed and burned.

The Serbian Orthodox Church is the second oldest Orthodox Church in the world and holds many Christian relics including, I believe, the right hand of John the Baptist.

Yes, the hand of John the Baptist is being kept in the Diocese of Montenegro and there are many others of course. Serbian Orthodox Church has a very old history, a very rich history and very rich spirituality. This is exactly the reason why we have to fight and we have to offer everything, including our lives for protecting this patrimony.

Addendum: Neither the Serbian Orthodox Church nor the Russian Orthodox Church recognize a network of catacomb churches and monasteries, called the Rasko-Prizrenska Diocese in Exile and headed by former bishop Artemije. In May 2011, Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill sent a letter to his Serbian counterpart to assure that no Russian Orthodox Church bishop or cleric will contact former bishop Artemije and his supporters.

In February 2010, the Holy Synod of the Serbian Orthodox Church suspended Artemije from managing the Rasko-Prizrenska Diocese after claims of fraud and financial mismanagement that were in place in this structure. In November 2010, a decision was made to defrock Artemije because he and his supporters “embarked on the road of an open rift.”

15 May 2012, 15:24

Serbian Presidential Elections Stolen Doctor Jovan Deretic

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Interview with Dr. Jovan Deretic, a Political Science Doctor and the member of the Petrovskaya Academy in St. Petersburg, he is also the President of the Free Serbia Movement in Serbia.

I’d like you if you could give our listeners a rundown on the recent elections in Serbia? What exactly is going on there in the country?

They are false, people can’t take all right the election. But this is not really an election. People in power have made a blueprint writing down what they need to stay in power. And after they tried to fulfill their blueprint and stolen the election, completely stolen. Nobody see something at this nowhere in the world. What we can do about it – I guess is to let the power not to cover what have happened.

There are reports that the pro-Western Democratic Party stole 500 000 votes in the elections.

That is true. I’ve put in my site in Serbia that they have stole about 1 000 000 votes. They’ve put the people from Kosovo and Metohija, Albanians who don’t have documents of Serbia, into account, to cast ballots. And it is very difficult whether they can profit of it and what will happen. The political party is to recognize that the election is stolen, that’s true.

There’s been accusations that the Democrats took the names 500 000 dead people and listed them as voters. Do you know anything about that?

Right! And we don’t exactly know how much each party got. People from all around of Serbia send me the pictures made on the cameras, and some people recognized that they participated in this kind of stealing. In some towns they gave money to the people who casted ballots into the ballot box. And when they opened the ballot boxes it turned out that inside there was not what they voted for. Now we can’t recognize any power that is to be constituted from this election.

The election chairman, I believe his name was the Spokesman Miodrag Petrovic, he said that there was no possible election fraud and the OSCE observers said it was open and competitive. What can you say about those comments?

These are certainly pro-West company people who supervised election and those people are on the serve of the Democratic Party and say what they like to say because they must stay in power, no matter how because if it loses the power everything will be changed in Serbia.

What’s your opinion on the former Mayor of New York Giuliani, he was in Belgrade on Friday? Some people say he was paid by the Serbian Progressive Party to come into the country. What can you tell us about that?

Right! In 1999 he supported aggression against Serbia and now he comes to Serbia to support some kind of people who are absolutely not qualified for the position they will be given.

He was for bombing of Yugoslavia in 1999, I think. It is important.

Yes, he supported bombing. And all this seems as very sick, very bad. What we need in Serbia – we need to clean up all those people who are now in power. There are too much bad people and the situation is very bad. They lie in their speeches…

What can you tell us about the release of the Kosovo’s former Prime Minister Ramush Haradinaj. He was released from prison.

Yes, the Serbian Tribunal has no proof against him. This man has written a book in which he recognized they have killed people every day. This Tribunal is not a Tribunal, it is just something to ban the Serbians, to punish the Serbians. It is nothing of the tribunal and it cannot even be called a tribunal.

The Deputy Prime Minister of Serbia Ivica Dacic said that the Tribunal there is one-sided. What can you say about that?

This man you cited is a very bad man. One day he says one thing and the other day he says another thing. He is just looking to be in power, to have a good position. This man played a very bad role in this election. Tadic and Dacic have supervised the stolen election.

Now when Vladimir Putin is the President of the Russian Federation, how will that affect Russian-Serbian relations? Will there be any change do you think?

I think yes, they obviously may change. You know, President Putin is the most popular politician in Serbia. Serbian people trust him and in this respect there will be done something good. We will improve our relations. And we expect that he wouldn’t support these traitors in Serbia.

Like before some Russians said – we will keep good relations with anybody. Don’t make goals like these! If we will keep good relations with our enemy, then what kind of enemy we are? What kind of friend you are if you support our enemy? I think President Putin is a very intelligent man, he has rather big courage like a politician, politically he may say something.

What’s the status of your movement? What is going on? Anything new?

Very good things are going now because we are the only one who tells people what happened. Now people realize that we are the only one who tells truth to the people. And people think of us very good now here in Serbia because there is nobody else to trust. But we are not yet in the power to change the situation. We will be strong enough to make a change.

25 May 2012, 15:29

Who is Serbia’s New President?  John Robles

Who is Serbia’s new president?

For many of the Serbian people the recent election was just more of the same. For all of the conflicting views and opinions most of the population agreed on two things, corruption is too high and Tadic  was not working for the betterment of Serbia.

For many of the Serbian people the recent election was just more of the same. For all of the conflicting views and opinions most of the population agreed on two things, corruption is too high and Tadic  was not working for the betterment of Serbia.

Lackluster voter turnout saw less than 45% of the population coming out to vote with the final election results leaving Nikolic with 49.4% and Tadic 47.4%, thus denying him a third term in office. For many the results were a surprise.

Serbia has a multi-party system and safeguards in place to prevent one party from gaining complete power. In the Serbian system parties must work together and form coalition governments. A party must receive at least 5.0% of the votes for the entire country during parliamentary in order to qualify for seats. What are called national minority parties only have to reach 0.40% of the vote to secure seats in the parliament.

As for the position and the powers of the president of Serbia, according to the constitution, the president has no executive powers, he or she represents the nation at home and abroad, signs and approves laws adopted by the Parliament, names ambassadors to foreign countries, receive and accepts the foreign ambassadors of other countries in Serbia and decides on a number of other state matters. Being as such, much of the country was dissatisfied due to Tadic’s influence and presence being felt in every sphere of government and beyond.

The West’s propaganda machine was all wound up and ready for the results as their candidate, Tadic lost the election, and immediately reports spread that there was a shocking tun of events in Serbia and that the new Serbian President Tomislav Nikolic is a veteran “ultranationalist”. Reports spread like wildfire calling the 60-year-old former cemetery manager, “Toma; The Gravedigger” and citing how he was a loyal follower of Vojislav Seselj whose trial is under way in The Hague, Netherlands.

His support for the Serbian people and Serbia was called supporting “warmongering in the former Yugoslavia” by the western media who also vilify that he fought on the side of Serbia during the war with the Croats. The western press has also made much ado about the fact that Nikolic was the deputy prime minister in Milosevic's government in 1999 when NATO invaded the country.

Stating without a doubt who President Tomislav Nikolic really is and what his real plans for Serbia are is something that it too early to do. Many pro-Serbia activists and politicians, including many of my contacts in Serbia, say that he (Nikoloic) is just another pro-Western instrument and that it is not possible for anyone who has an anti-NATO anti-West position to win office.

Politicians like Dr. Jovan Deretic, who was not certified to run for president and whose supporters claim he was not allowed to do so because of his anti-NATO pro-Serbian views were almost nowhere to be seen during the elections, kept away by those in power. Dr. Deretic and other activists in Serbia claim that up to 1 million votes were stolen; this included but was not limited to: the use of dead people’s names as well as votes counted belonging to Albanians who did not have documents to vote in Serbian elections.

To have an inkling of who President Tomislav Nikolic is we can look at his past statements and his record. In 2008, Nikolic formed his own Serbian Progressive Party but remained staunchly pro-Russian. Many say this was only lip service as he also supported Serbia's membership in the European Union, something he was quick to repeat as soon as he won office. That, and the fact that the president of the European Commission José Manuel Barroso, and of the European Council Herman Van Rompuy, both issued a statement from the NATO Summit in Chicago, congratulating Nikolic on his victory three hours before the polls closed, points to a candidate placed in power by the West and will do little to help with his credibility and gain him the support of pro-Serbian elements both within Serbia and abroad.

On May 20th in an address to his supporters at his party’s headquarters in Belgrade Nikolic said "Serbia must develop its economy. The things I pointed out during the campaign must be improved. We have to free ourselves of poverty. We must free ourselves of the low birth rates, bribery, corruption and have friends all over the world."

Some experts, such as Dragan Bujosevic the editor in chief of the main Serbian newspaper Politika, predict that Tadic's Democrats are likely to form a new government with the Socialists led by Ivica Dacic which will leave Nikolic without any real power.

One fact that may point to where he is headed is the fact that Nikolic has close ties with Russia and has in the past even envisaged Serbia as a Russian province, according to many press reports. Another is the fact that Nikolic has vowed to keep alive Serbia's claim over Kosovo. Serbia has rejected Kosovo's declaration of independence, as Kosovo is a part of Serbia. By many it is seen as the cradle of the Serbian state, the Serbian people and the Serbian Orthodox Church.

For me this is the key matter as there can be no discussion about Serbia and its future without touching on the subject of the reintegration of Kosovo into Serbia. The west has backed and supported the Albanians who claimed the territory of Kosovo was their own, another example of NATO once again taking the side of one or another belligerent party, something that has done more than NATO’s bombing and occupation to destroy the Serbian people; something that has to stop.

As many Serbians say: “There can be no Serbian history without Kosovo” and "Kosovo is Serbian, Kosovo is Serbia!"

Have a nice day!!!

5 April 2012, 11:53

EU Made Serbia a Colony Doctor Jovan Deretic

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Interview with Dr. Jovan Deretic, a Political Science Doctor, the member of the Petrovskaya Academy in St. Petersburg and the President of the Free Serbia Movement in Serbia.

Can you tell our listeners what are the main points affecting the current struggle of the Serbian people, I mean politically as far as integration with Europe, ties with the United States, ties with Russia, etc.?

Yes, we are having a very bad situation in Serbia since the year 2000 when the Government was started here. We have a Pristine Government or not a Pristine Government and everything that is wrong here is against the Serbian people, against the Serbian state, everything is destroyed in Kosovo and Metohija. Classical defiance of the Serbian acting Government. The people are resisting. We are in a rich country, now people start starving because all the economy is destroyed. And we don’t have the right to produce something because we have to buy everything from the European Union. The European Union has made of us a kind of colony and not thinking straight here, people are very, very hungry.

And now we have an election which is to be held on the 6th of May. But this election is a paper to be stealing, it’s not absolutely free. It’s not absolutely correct. And this carries a big question of what will happen in Serbia in one month, two months and through time. And the European Union will not get Serbia as its member. They have a plan to accept Serbia as a last colony, to destroy our economy and oblige the people to immigrate in other states particularly to make Serbia empty. And our regular people are obliged to follow these policies because they are blackmailed by Brussels. People in power who have money have stolen everything that is given to Serbia as a nation like a good credit. Privatization resulted in stealing, like mafia working.

And now they ask from the people and people do not agree with this policy. People in Serbia will not enter the European Union. People from Serbian look to the east to roots to trust to a new European-Asian Economic Union. And my movement Слободна Србија (Free Serbia Movement) are working on the program for Serbia to join the European-Asian Economic Union as we are the only ones in Serbia who dare to talk freely of this problem. Our media is not free. People don’t watch TV anymore.

Can you please tell me about your political campaign, because as I understand you are running for office? What are your positions?

Our political campaign, we will not be present on this election because it is not free and correct. We boycott this election and boycott the new Government which will come after this election.

Why exactly?

Because they are prepared to steal 2 million votes. Everything is discovered, we know everything what they have done. And this is not a normal election, this is a joke.

I’d like to know why many of the current politicians are not loved by the Serbian people and yet they are in office? How did that happen? Most of the politicians right now are not supported by the Serbian people, why is that?

These politicians now are not supported by the Serbian people, they are supported by NATO and by Brussels. And here we have some Russian diplomats, they say that Russia will keep good relationship whoever will be in the Government of Serbia. We don’t like this because it means that Russia doesn’t care of what is happening here and puts in place to work for better relations between Serbia and Russia people who work too hesitant. I think Russian diplomats don’t understand our  situation.

That’s not very promising to hear that. What would you do if you win office, what do you think should be done to improve relations with Russia and Serbia?

I think we have to join a European-Asian Union with Russia, Belorussia, and Kazakhstan. And we will see what we can do more. And our goal is to bring Serbia into the European-Asian Union.

What steps have been taken so far in that direction?

One of the actions if we will come not as a minority, the first thing – we will stop negotiations with the European Union right away because it does not matter for us and we will start working to improve our relationship with Russia, and prepare Serbia to join this union.

26 March 2012, 21:38

They Killed Pregnant Woman Danijela Dragovic

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Interview with Serbian political activist Danijela Dragovic about the beginning of NATO campaign in Yugoslavia.

27 February 2012, 21:18

Criminals Demand Unblock Road in Serbia John Robles and  Operations Chief of the Serbian National Organization #1389

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Interview with Operations Chief of the Serbian National Organization #1389.

Can you tell our listeners a little bit about what’s going on there in Serbia along the Kosovo border?

In midnight between 22nd and 23rd of February, around midnight, a group of masked people in black uniforms came and started to destroy tents on part of the blocked road. Protests were organized against placing Albanian Customs and border police, on administration of border crossings called Jarinje. It was a peaceful form of protest with no violence at all. Two or three days before that NATO soldiers, from KFOR, tried to remove the roadblock and the people who barricaded the road block but they couldn’t succeed because guards with some resistance and they could not succeed in what they tried to do. Then Serbian police came, but before the police, a group of uniformed people in black uniforms and masks on their faces came, they did not show any official identification cards.

Who were they? Do you know?

No, I don’t know. It could be some police unit or it could be some criminals. I don’t know. No one can tell who it was.

Was anybody injured? Was anyone shot or did they open fire?

No, some 20 minutes after, regular police came and backed them up, they didn’t support, and the protesters removed themselves because they don’t want to confront the Serbian police. There were some threats like “we will kill you all, we will throw you in the river, we will take revenge on your families” and stuff like that.

Who has said that? The Serbian police?

Yes, the Serbian police. When Serbian police showed up in uniforms, they did not say anything. They just came and just went to people from Northern Kosovo and Metohija territory. But before them those people in black uniforms were making some threats and guards on the barricades assumed that they are police, they are Serbs and they did not try to confront them, it’s unnecessary to make an incident from such politically sensitive territory and politically sensitive moment. So it’s betrayal of Belgrade’s government with Boris Tadic at its head, it’s betrayal of people who live in Kosovo and Metohija, it’s betrayal of all Serbian people. It’s a shame, and all people in Serbia are very frustrated and they dislike this kind of action of Serbian police and armed criminal groups.

Did the criminals in the black uniforms demand anything?

They demanded that the road be unblocked. They demanded to all the protesters to remove themselves from the road and to remove their tents and to remove obstacles they put on the road. It’s very interesting that NATO soldiers came some three or four days before and they had the same demand but when protesters confronted them, they pulled back in their base that’s in the nearby hill and they could not remove them, but then when they could not succeed it, when KFOR could not remove the road block, the Serbian police came and no one wanted to confront them because they are all Serbs and no one wanted to make such an incident on that point.

Is there anybody there blocking the road right now or has everybody left?

No, now there are only police patrols and there are only patrols of Serbian police and only the patrols of KFOR on their territory, on their part of the road.

I see. You said the Serbian police were threatening people. I mean does that happen very often?

No, this is the first time that such activity is done by Serbian police. This was unexpected and this was a very shameful act of Serbian regime and the Serbian President and Serbian part of government. This is controlled by NATO and by European Union. That government doesn’t have support from people in Serbia. Right now the situation is quiet. It a kind of normal situation but everybody is frustrated with the decision of the Belgrade Government to sign an agreement with the criminal institutions in Pristina about placing a border between two Serbian provinces, between Central Serbia and the Serbian Province of Kosovo and Metohija. Everybody is very, very frustrated, people are kind of angry but the situation in normal, no activities from the blocking roads protests are happening right now. No such activities at this moment. Right now Belgrade is cooperating with the European Union and they are really really doing things to fulfill every demand that is put in front of them by the European Union and they are making the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija an independent state. People in Serbia are very frightened that this damage done by Belgrade regime may not be made better in any moment.

Can you tell us, because we had some mixed reports as to the situation of the Serbian Orthodox Church, are there in Central Serbia and Northern Kosovo, any Orthodox Churches that are open and operating right now?

The Serbian Orthodox Church and Monasteries right now on the territory of Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija, north from Ibar River, it’s small part of territory of Kosovo and Metohija, they are working in normal matter but churches and monasteries south from Ibar River, they are systematically ruined and destroyed from Albanians. Serbian people are put in kind of ghetto and they cannot move freely because Albanians are attacking them and KFOR is doing nothing to protect them.

This is horrible, unbelievable. I mean, this is a humanitarian disaster.

Yes, it’s worse than horrible. One must come to see to believe. It’s unbelievable when you talk to people, tell thing to people which they did not see with their own eyes, they can not believe and I understand that they can not believe it. Every Serb in Northern Kosovo and Metohija and Central Serbia will tell you the same thing.


29 February 2012, 10:37

Serbians Against EU Entry John Robles and Operations Chief of the Serbian National Organization #1389

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Interview with the spokesperson for the Serbian National Organization 1389.

How is everything going there? Can you tell us a little bit about what was happening in Belgrade today?

There were some protests in Belgrade today. The protests were inspired by the betrayal of the Serbian regime in Belgrade, they were about Kosovo and Metohija matter and about an agreement that part of Government in Belgrade made with Kosovo Albania criminal institutions in Pristine. Also the protests were inspired by joining of Serbia to the European Union. Serbs don’t want to be the members of the European Union, they want to make closer relationships with Russia and Muslim India KUNA organization.

 But the Serbian part of Government and the regime in Belgrade and Boris Tadic as its head want to put Serbia in the European Union and Serbs dislike that and try to hold protests. Large forces of Serbian police stepped in and they broke protests using their repressing methods, they used tear gas, they used brutal force on the Serbian people who came to make peaceful protests in Belgrade against joining the European Union and against the Belgrade regime.

Two points here. I’ve heard reports lately and it seems that the Government, and you correct me if I’m wrong, but the Serbian Government now, would you say that they are not representing the interests of the Serbian people?

Large majority of the Serbian people think that the Serbian Government is not representing their interests in a best way and the Serbian Government is controlled by the European Union and NATO alliance. The Serbian Government is very unpopular in Serbia.

Last time I spoke with somebody about the barricades there, was in fact the Serbian police that broke that up? You said there were clashes between the police and the young people, was anybody injured?

I don’t have any information about serious injuries, but there are some slight injuries from the tear gas. And I have information that one of our activists has broken nose today but it’s not confirmed till now.

What are your organization’s plans for the summer and for the near future? Are you planning more demonstrations or what can you do to put more pressure on the Serbian Government to represent the interests of the Serbian people?

We have a lot of information about the movement reacting on our website, there will be protests against any harmful decision of the Serbian part of Government and Belgrade regime. People will make protests any time if the Serbian regime makes some bad decisions for the Serbian people, any time when the Belgrade regime tries to put Serbia in slavery of the European Union and any time the Belgrade regime tries to make distance with Russia and other relative nations our organization will make some protests.

When are the next elections?

The elections will be in the last week of April and first week of May.

And what do you think of the chances of more sympathetic representatives into the Government?

We hope that this will happen. Now the things are very bad and personally I don’t think that anything can be worse than this. So, I think that the National party will win and elections will view changes. That is an opinion that they cannot be represented in the Serbian parliament, today when the clashes between the protesters and police took place, this was the central news on state television and there was not a single word about those protests.

On state television in Serbia?

Yes, on the Serbian state television there wasn’t a word about those protests today.

Ok, recently on the 23 it was Defenders of the Fatherland Day and as I understand the Serbian Government did not marked this holiday even though that was a very important holiday and Russian Ambassador Konuzin received a lot of e-mails from the Serbian people in support of the holiday. Was there any statement from the Russian Embassy regarding the protests today?

I don’t have any information about this at the moment but if can talk about it later tomorrow maybe I can tell you something more.

Is the Russian Embassy assisting the people there in any way right now?

I don’t know about assisting from the Russian Embassy in making protests, I don’t know if such activity is going on. But there was a humanitarian aid for Kosovo and Metohija maybe a few months ago and it was a great thing which helped people living in Kosovo and Metohija very much and all the Serbs and especially Serbs from there are very, very thankful to this kind of help from the Russian Federation.

Have you been in touch with the European Court of Human Rights in Hague? Are there any international, like the Human Rights Organization, operating in Serbia?

Yes, there is Human Rights Organization here but they took the side. Large majority of Serbs think that this kind of organization would like to help them because they help to the Serbian enemies Muslims, Albanians and they protect the rights of sexual minorities. And I told you that at this moment large majority of Serbs think that only God and Russia can help us, all our hopes are in God and in Russia.

Do you think that the relations between Russia and Serbia will improve if the Prime Minister Putin is elected president?

I think it would be in the best interests of Serbia to make closest possible relations with the Russian Federation and Prime Minister Putin. And personally I have no doubts that Mr. Putin will win this election and I hope the relationships between Serbia and Russia will be the as close as possible, any kind of relations. It is the only solution for Serbia now.


Kosovo: 5 Serbs Arrested for Possession of Newspaper John Robles

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Five Serbs, three women and two men, have reportedly been arrested in Kosovo after several copies of a Serbian Journal newspaper were found in their car. They now face up to three years in prison.

Five Serbs, three women and two men, have reportedly been arrested in Kosovo after several copies of a Serbian Journal newspaper were found in their car. They now face up to three years in prison. Dragan Vasiljkovic, a Serbian political activist says that, according to the laws of the self-proclaimed Republic of Kosovo, possession of The Serbian Journal is a punishable offence as it incites “racial, national and religious intolerance.”

17 February 2012, 14:46

Serbia: 300,000 Displaced, 3,000 Never Existed Elena Svachich - Human Rights Worker

Serbia: 300,000 displaced, 3,000 never existed

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Interview with Elena Svachich, a human rights worker in Serbia.

Could you tell our listeners a little bit about the mood in the country with the referendum?

The general feeling, as you said, in Serbia is not very well. We have referendum going at our Southern part of our country in Kosovo and we are awaiting the results.

What do you think the results will be?

We do know some results, by 4 pm today there have been 64% voters, so legally it’s done, so we just have to see what they said. That can be expected.

What do you think will happen if the Albanian authorities are deemed to be illegitimate?

It’s very hard to tell but the referendum is legitimate, as much as I know, and they cannot overthrow it without some kind of riot and people at Kosovo are desperate to keep the institutions of Serbia there because that’s the only way that they can survive.

Regarding human rights violations in Serbia can you detail some of those for us please?

First of all, part of our country is occupied. Kosovo was bombed, that’s against humanitarian rights of those people, there is radiation. Then, there has been so many arsons and killings and all kind of violence there with no one to protect those people, transplantation of organs is proved but it’s really amazing that they lost the results of the research.

How is it that they are getting away with what they are doing? I am talking about the organ transplanting, for example.

No one can understand it. Three thousand people are lost at Kosovo and none of the institutions are looking for them, it’s like they never existed.

And you say these are all the people that have been killed for their organs, probably? Yes?

Yes, many of them, but many of them are just slaughtered. And 300,000 had to leave their houses and flee,300 thousand, and you’re in Russia so maybe it’s not such a big figure for you but for us it’s disastrous.

No, it’s a huge amount of people. I think three people would have been too many. You’re talking about 300,000 thousand, and 3,000 missing.

In light of all those data that I gave you that no one cares about those people, they are forsaken, betrayed by their government.

I think we care. It’s not true that nobody cares.

Yes, there still are some people who care because institutions do not care enough.

What can we do to help the situation? What can we do to help these people? What can we do to get the truth out?

This is one way of getting the truth out and we try to get to as many people as possible because the media in Serbia are trying to hush up things that are going on and the economic situation in Serbia is very tough, so people try not to bother with anything that is not directly connected to them.

Who controls the media in Serbia?

Government, of course. And our government is very strange, I mean it’s like they are the first enemies of these people.

Who would you say, regarding the black market organ transplanting, is responsible for this?

I can’t tell you the names but it’s obviously very organized and several governments, we believe, are connected to it.

What governments?

And there is another thing; drug trafficking in amazing quantities. It’s not just few people, those are people who have background in several different countries.

What countries do you think are involved in this?

We can only guess. It’s better that we do not make assumptions.

Are you afraid to talk about this subject? Are you afraid something might happen to you?

Not afraid, not exactly afraid, but, you know, it’s too big to point a finger at someone specific, there are assumptions but we have no real proof.

When you are talking about 3,000 people disappearing, yes that is very big, and that has to be very organized. I mean you can’t just kill people and transplant their organs, you need hospitals, you need doctors, you need professionals, you need a lot of equipment, you need locations. That’s not possible that’s just something small.

We have all kinds of problems there since bishop Artemia was banished from Kosovo, people are left even without the consolation of the church. The Orthodox Church in Kosovo was the safe place to go when things go wrong and now the churches are locked. We do have many data that shows that he is not to blame and that he was framed in many ways and we have data against some other participants who are still working there in public kitchens at Kosovo who are supposed to feed people there, humanitarian organization too, but we do have data that they are misusing the help that they are getting and we are preparing to sue them, it’s better than we don’t mention too many details because it’s not all prepared. For example, the help from Russia that came, we are very thankful to all Russian people and to Ambassador Konuzin who did so much. Help came to Red Cross but we have data from people at Kosovo that only 2,000 packages are given away, 2,000 out of 6,000. Other things are sold in nearby towns, they are not given away to those who are sensitive. We are surprised that no Russian supervisors stayed there to see it given. I wouldn’t say the names because we still don’t have enough to prosecute. We are surprised that there are no supervisors from Russia there. I don’t think it’s Albanians, it’s a private person, who is connected probably with all aspects of government at Kosovo meaning both Albanian and Orthodox church there. It’s very complicated there, you cannot point a finger at one person or one organization without pointing out at many others who ordinary people wouldn’t think are connected.

Did they get the generators and the heaters that the Russian Federation sent?

Generators and heaters came earlier and they are given away and they are doing their job but there have been avalanches and people were killed.

How many people have died?

10 people, I think.


7 February 2012, 20:20

Solution for Survival of Serbia Dragan Antakovic - Author

Solution for survival of Serbia

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Interview with Dragan Antakovic, the author of “The Survival Option” and the founder of the People’s Response in Kosovo, in Serbia.

Hello, this is John Robles, I’m speaking with Dragan Antakovic – he is the author of “The Survival Option” and the founder of the People’s Response in Kosovo, in Serbia.

Hello, sir. What exactly is the “The Survival Option” that you wrote?

“The Survival Option” is a set of political, social and economic solutions that are not only desirable but also easily achievable. “The Survival Option” is also known as democratic meritocracy.

Ok, and what exactly does that mean?

Well, it means why this option is called the survival option.

Ok, why is this option called the survival option?

Because the realization of this option provides the only solution for the survival of Serbia as a state and the survival of the Serbian people as a nation with the state and the survival of all other citizens of Serbia as dignified human beings allowing them to have what is called a decent life – it means survival option.

What is the current situation there in Serbia? Can you tell the listeners a little bit about that?

About the situation in Serbia, I’ll try to explain with my not so good English. Serbia is now in total occupation. That means that one part of the occupation is made up of the foreign interests from the West of course. Another part of occupation is made up of the so called tycoons in Serbia – people who make much money but are big politicians. The political scene in Serbia is also occupied. On the political scene we have those who act in interests of interested groups on the West.

Can we talk about “The Survival Option”? Is this a democratic option or what are the politics of “The Survival Option”?

“The Survival Option” is democratic and patriotic option because the “The Survival Option” is the so called original democracy with no parties – it is our idea. We have a lot of forbidden parties but we think that parties are something that we don’t need.

Is this a democratic or anti-democratic option in your view?

Democratic option because it has some kind of original principles of democracy - that is direct voting by name, the right of citizens to control the work of Government and its Assembly, the right of people to freedom of expression – a decent right and all the other rights that are stated in the UN Charter.

What’s the attitude of “The Survival Option” towards Kosovo?

Kosovo or Kosovo and Metohija is our territory which we neither sold nor lost in the war nor gave away as a gift and in which due to arose of local politicians and interference of foreign factors beyond our political will and without consultation with us was created a political entity which is not ours and which we do not recognize as a state. We are aware that our compatriots who live within that entity need every kind of our help, so we are providing it and we will continue to provide in the future.

We do not want to confront with the international community and with the United States as well as any other country or nation. We only ask that our view of the status of Kosovo is appreciated and we are not asked to change it until we, by the will of the majority of our people, decide to do so. We declared our view of the status of Kosovo to be final and on that subject we will no longer ask for or let the repressed or another party enter into negotiations.

We do not reject negotiations and discussing with the legitimate representatives of the Kosovar Albanians stiff at this because we are aware that this is in interests of our compatriots in Kosovo. We only ask that those negotiations and discussion occur first under the patronage of the United Nations mission which will be equally made of the countries that have recognized Kosovo as the state and countries that have not with the mediation of countries like the United States and the countries that are selected as well, and Russia and countries that Russia chooses.

We will agree to any decision made by the United Nations mission or assembly of these countries - mediators unless we were asked to give legitimacy to seizing of our territory that is Kosovo and Metohija. We advocate that the problems in North Kosovo where most of our compatriots are should be resolved under the patronage of the United Nations mission which would consist equally of the countries that have recognized and the countries that have not recognized Kosovo’s independence with the obligatory presence of the United States and Russia in that mission.

Ok, I’ll ask you one more question. Are you for or against joining NATO?

My opinion is my opinion but people have opinion too. NATO Alliance is a military organization which ranks we will join only if people agree with this in our referendum provided that the turn out is at least 60% of all voters. We will hold this referendum only if China and Russia give us their confirmation to join the NATO Alliance. China and Russia respond negatively on this matter – we will absolutely accept their position only if they previously, officially, which means in the UN too, provide and guarantee our status of military neutral country – it’s our opinion.

So, Serbia should be a neutral country in your opinion?

I think that we must be a neutral country because neither United States nor Russia wouldn’t agree with other sides. I never be in NATO, as me as person, but we must be real in this world.

Ok, thank you very much.

That was an interview with Dragan Antakovic the author of “The Survival Option” and the founder of the People’s Response.

14 December 2011, 16:09

Russian Aid Needs Escort? Russian Ambassador to Serbia  Alexander Konuzin

Russian aid needs escort?

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Interview with Russian Ambassador to Serbia  Aleksandr Konuzin.

Can you give our listeners a little bit of information about the situation on the ground in Serbia, please?

I’m standing at the administrative line between the Central Serbia and the Kosovo Province. We came here in the morning, at 9.30 a.m. and proceeded with passage from Central Serbia to Kosovo. Two trucks with humanitarian aid crossed the checkpoint, but then the procedure was disrupted and the whole convoy was blocked. We stayed for hours and only some 15 minutes ago I received a call from EULEX aide, explaining that it’s impossible for us to proceed. They insisted on escorting out convoy. I said we didn’t need any escort to go from Yarine to Kosovska Mitrovica. But he said it was impossible to go without escort or else we should go to Marbore. We didn’t go to Marbore and in this situation the whole convoy is unfortunately blocked. So, we are standing at Yarine.

The whole convoy is stopped right now?

Yes. Two trucks are on the Kosovo side and the rest of the convoy is on the side of Central Serbia.

Is this a serious problem? Do you think it will be worked out by morning?

I don’t know. I’m in communication with my authorities. We are examining the situation. We need some more time to make a definite decision.

Interview with Daniela Dragovic, a Serbian political activist.

Can you tell us a little bit about the aid? How many trucks of aid have arrived?

25 trucks have arrived. They are still on the border with Kosovo, as I know. We have out man down there, Mr. Konuzin, who is our national hero. All people in Serbia love Konuzin more than any of our politicians.

That’s nice to hear. Are they having any problems or is everything going normally out there?

No, there is nothing normal out there. I have to say we have self-destruction politicians here, in Serbia, and we are intentionally being isolated from the media. Nobody, no television, no newspapers are actually talking about Russian help. But the ordinary people in Serbia, they know, and we are very, very happy. They are on the streets, all along the way.

I saw some pictures and it looked like there were some trees on the road and stuff. Did somebody set up road blocks or was that just some trees that fell on the road? What happened with that? Do you know anything about that?

 I don’t know. Maybe out men on the border do. Can I say something about our movement?

Sure. You can say anything you want. This is a free radio.

We are gathering young, honest people who don’t care about politics and just want to save Serbia from the worst situation in its history. Our leader is in fact in Russia and you can contact him for more information. The biggest part of Serbian people don’t trust our politicians and put all their faith in Russia and God. They are grateful for all Russian help. I’m very excited, I’m sorry.

Is the Russian Orthodox Church active with the Serbian Church?

No, I’m ashamed of telling this but our patriarch is so-called “uniate.” Our patriarch wants to cooperate with the Roman Church.

I thought there were some ties being built with the Orthodox Church as well.

I’m really sorry to tell this but we are in a very dire situation. Serbia is in a so-called silent occupation. All our political parties and their leaders actually don’t have any solution because they are in a no-exit position. We don’t have any hope and we must gather people to try to solve this situation. There are many people in our movement and we really have solutions to all Serbian problems.

What about the aid? I heard there are power units. You said there are problems with media. Are you able to use the internet there?

Yes, we are very active on Facebook. We try to get more information for people who are on Facebook, on Twitter etc. that’s all. You can’t read about it in a newspaper or watch about it on TV.

Why is that? Who is responsible for that?

Our government and all our politicians because they don’t want us to get close with Russia. We are on the road to Europe. And for our politicians there is actually no other way for Serbia. But it’s not so. Most of Serbian people at this time want to be closer to Russia. Most of us want to go to the Eurasian unit with Russia and other countries. This is it.

16 December 2011, 15:21

Russian Aid Convoy in Serbia Given Green Light Russian Ambassador to Serbia  Alexander Konuzin

Russian aid convoy in Serbia given green light

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Interview with Russian Ambassador to Serbia Aleksandr Konuzin . Mr. Konuzin says an agreement was reached yesterday at the EU-Russia Summit that cleared the situation around Russian humanitarian convoy for Kosovo's Serbian population that was stuck at the Kosovo border.

Interview with Russian Ambassador to Serbia Aleksandr Konuzin. Mr. Konuzin says an agreement was reached yesterday at the EU-Russia Summit that cleared the situation around Russian humanitarian convoy for Kosovo's Serbian population that was stuck at the Kosovo border.

According to the ambassador, they have been working together with local authorities, the government of Serbia and EU representatives in Kosovo on a plan, which is not being implemented as follows: several trucks of EU mission are now going to the Yarine block post to join the convoy, while customs officers are processing the long-awaited Russian convoy.




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